Greetings all: Just getting in from Buenos Aires where I have been helping a friend with an offline project.
I landed back in NYC at 6am this morning and am still at the office so will read your comments tonight at home and reply to at least a few tomorrow...:-)
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On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Gunnar Swanson wrote:
> Fil,
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> You're right about describing *some* symptoms and not clearly describing them. (Didn't I have my co-creation removed back in '87 along with my appendix?)
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> I've heard a lot of people say "Designers [or design educators or whatever] don't do x and it's vital. 75% of the time, when I follow up, I discover that it's something I knew but they'd made up new consultant buzz words to make it seem profound or threatening or world-changing. That, of course, means that 25% of the time, I did learn something but the long odds stop me from paying a hundred bucks for whatever vitally important "webinar" is being advertised in my email this week.
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> But, of course, knowing what you know, what you don't know, which part of what you don't know you should know, and how to best find out about that last part is one of the great problems of life. (Whenever someone works on the edges of various people's expertise, you know someone is thinking "This clown doesn't get it." I always wish I knew what people were thinking I don't get.)
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> About a month ago, some discussion on this list started with people citing the backwardness of design teaching. I was impressed with the certainty people had about what is being taught everywhere. I'm fairly familiar with a half dozen or fewer programs and somewhat familiar with maybe ten or twenty more and most of that information is out of date. My impression is that I've seen a lot more of more programs than most people; since I don't have much of a clue about what's really going on, either I have a greater sensitivity to doubt than a lot of people or they're a lot smarter and a lot more observant than I am.
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> Often when I hear that people don't teach [fill in the blank], I think "That's not the main concentration of what we teach but we do teach that." In the end, I don't know whether we're a lot better than other programs (even though we don't think we're anywhere near good enough) or we're just kidding ourselves because we have no formal training in [fill in the blank with co-creation or something else].
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> On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Filippo A. Salustri wrote:
>> Gunnar,
>> I saw the nextd doc as advertising. It describes some symptoms. If you or
>> your organization believe you suffer those symptoms, you might be tempted
>> to go to them to ask them "Doctor! Can you save me?!?!"
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>> They didn't even bother describing what "co-creation" is.
> [snip]
>> On 21 November 2011 04:42, Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> I wonder whether I am just particularly slow or if others find
>>>> http://issuu.com/nextd/docs/_nextd_teachingcocreationnow
>>> to be a perhaps-interesting polemic but devoid of anything concrete or
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