medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
We've got them round the altar at St Teilos (back there next week for the rest of the Experiencing Medieval Liturgy project)
Maddy
Dr Madeleine Gray
Reader in History/ Darllenydd mewn Hanes
School of Humanities and Lifelong Learning /Ysgol Ddyniaethau a Dysgu Gydol Oes
University of Wales, Newport/Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd
Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion,
Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675
'A concept is a brick. It can be used to build a courthouse of reason. Or it can be thrown through the window.' (Gilles Deleuze)
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From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of John McChesney-Young [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 03 September 2011 18:13
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Subject: Re: [M-R] riddel
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Marjorie Greene
<[log in to unmask]> wrote in part:
> Here's another Francophile response. The word "rideau" (curtain) immediately popped into my mind. Kit's suggestion sounds plausible.
Although the question proper has been answered, I thought I'd pass
along confirmation that Marjorie's philological instincts were
correct. From the OED:
< Anglo-Norman and Middle French ridel (French rideau) curtain (1373
or earlier; earlier currency is probably implied by examples as a
vernacular word in a Latin context (see below) and by the
post-classical Latin nouns cited below) < rider to pleat (French
rider; late 12th cent. in Old French, earliest in past participle
ridé; probably < the Germanic base of [writhe v.^1]) + -el [-el
suffix^2]. Compare post-classical Latin ridellus (frequently from
c1266 in British sources; also as ridella, ridellum, redella,
redellus).
There's more information s.v., primarily citations, with the most
recent from 2002 (from the _Church Times_).
John
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> > --- On Sat, 9/3/11, Dr Jim Bugslag <[log in to unmask]> wrote in part:
D.R. Dendy, in his book
> >> The Use of Lights in Christian Worship, uses the word
> >> "riddel". ... Does anyone know precisely what it
> >> means?
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John McChesney-Young ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A.
JMcCYoung~at~gmail.com ** http://twitter.com/jmccyoung **
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