By way of an update for those of you who might, like me, wish to write
to the department and express objection:
Currently there is no press release that I can find regarding this
delisting proposal on the Department's website:
http://www.pobail.ie/en/PressReleases/2011/September2011PressReleases/
Neither is the statement that I forwarded this morning via other
mailing lists from the Institute of Archaeologists of Ireland on their
website, but I am sure it will be soon:
http://iai.ie/press.html
and... the National Inventory's website is not functioning so we can't
currently inspect the sites 'highlighted in green' referred to in the
IoAI statement:
http://www.archaeology.ie/
Apart from circulating this news, I cannot find a suitable point of
contact to which to send objections, or indeed verify the extent to
which this is just a proposal at this stage or something that is
definitely going ahead.
Should I find out any more, I shall forward it on.
Tehmina
On 16 September 2011 09:21, Robert Waterhouse
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> Keith/Tehmina,
>
> I've just sent this rather alarming bit of news to the editor of Current
> Archaeology magazine. I imagine he knows about it already, but if not,
> hopefully it should stir up a hornets' nest there. Its topical, as the
> latest issue has a piece on English planning proposals.
>
> Robert Waterhouse
> Field Archaeologist - Societe Jersiaise
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Keith Nicholls
> Sent: 16 September 2011 09:16
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fwd. Delisting of Irish heritage places after 1700 AD
>
> Tehmina
>
> It appears to me (as a non-specialist in the field) that adopting an
> arbitrary cut-off is bizarre.....something from 1699 is protected, something
> from 1701 is not.
>
> How would anyone wishing to express a view best do so?
>
> Kind Regards
> Keith
> Keith Nicholls BSc MSc CEng FIMMM MICE MIQ
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Tehmina Goskar
> Sent: 16 September 2011 09:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Fwd. Delisting of Irish heritage places after 1700 AD
>
> This disturbing news has been doing the rounds but I have not seen it posted
> to these lists. Apologies if you have seen it elsewhere. Below the Institute
> of Archaeologists of Ireland outlines the threat to post 1700 archaeology
> and heritage if their statutory protection is removed. Considering in
> particular Ireland's mining heritage which had a global reach, it is
> something that we should individually and collectively respond to.
>
> Tehmina
> ..
>
> The issue
>
> It is proposed by the Department of Arts, Heritage & the Gaeltacht that
> monuments dating to the period post- AD1700 will be delisted from the Record
> of Monuments & Places (RMP), thus removing their statutory protection, and
> their conditioning within the planning system These monuments have been
> highlighted in green on the Department's website www.archaeology.ie
>
> The Archaeological Survey of Ireland (ASI) has been locating, recording and
> describing the archaeological monuments of this country for several decades.
> The criteria for selection, of monuments to be recorded in each county have,
> however, been variable. Significant numbers of post-AD 1700 monuments have
> been included in the RMPs for Cork, Galway and Dublin, but not in a
> consistent manner. In 1982, guidelines were provided the Cork Archaeological
> Survey advising them to survey "everything up to 1700 and selectively
> afterwards". A detailed and systematic survey was undertaken by the Cork
> Archaeological Survey in order to make an informed selection of post-AD 1700
> monuments.
>
> The ASI is currently preparing a revision of the RMP. The ASI is obliged
> under government policy (2005 White Paper, 'Regulating Better') to ensure
> that there is consistency across the recorded monument listings for each
> county. Primarily due to limited resources, as well as a back-log in
> processing the previously collected datasets, the ASI is proposing that any
> post-AD 1700 monuments previously recorded on the RMP should be de-listed.
>
> The National Inventory for Architectural Heritage (NIAH) whose work
> 'involves identifying and recording the architectural heritage of Ireland
> from 1700 to the present day' does not currently record many of the smaller
> scale or more industrial monuments that are integral to development of Irish
> history and society during this period.
>
> Position of Institute of Archaeologists of Ireland (IAI)
>
> · The AD 1700 date, although used as a cut-off point, has no basis
> in legislation in defining whether a monument is or is not archaeological.
> By stating that all pre-AD 1700 monuments are archaeological, it does not
> preclude monuments of post-AD 1700 as being defined as archaeological; 'date
> is not in itself a determinant of archaeological significance or interest.
> Any material remains which can contribute to understanding past societies
> may be considered to have an element of archaeological significance.'
> Frameworks and Principles for the Protection of Archaeological Heritage
> (Dúchas 1999).
>
> · Sites currently being scheduled for delisting - such as vernacular
> buildings, lime kilns, holy wells, bridges, milestones, industrial sites
> etc. - will not qualify for inclusion in the Record of Protected Structures
> of each county and will therefore be left without any form of protection.
>
> · Any removal of protection from post-AD 1700 sites on land would be
> at odds with the legislation for shipwrecks, resulting in different
> protections for sea and land.
>
> · The archaeology of the post-AD 1700 and industrial period is the
> archaeology of the Diaspora and the immediate ancestors of the Irish people.
> By delisting the post-1700 monuments, access to a valuable resource will be
> removed.
>
> · In contrast to the ASI's proposed removal of the industrial
> heritage record of Cork and other counties, the Northern Ireland Environment
> Agency (NIEA) continues to build on their interest in structures dating to
> this period. The NIEA's Industrial Heritage Record lists more than 16,000
> features. Although many entries are somewhat limited in the information
> provided, a systematic second survey of historic buildings in Northern
> Ireland is underway, and results are accessible through the Industrial
> Heritage Database in the Monuments and Buildings Record.
>
> · There is increasing recognition of the value of our industrial
> heritage at regional and local level. Projects such as the Industrial
> Heritage Survey of Fingal led by Mary McMahon, are systematically examining
> the documentary and cartographic sources (Phase 1) and have uncovered
> hundreds of new sites. Funded by the Heritage Council through Fingal County
> Council it is ridiculous to believe these sites would have no legal
> protection. Similarly the numerous sites excavated under archaeological
> planning conditions would not have taken place if the current proposal had
> been in place.
>
> IAI proposals
>
> · The IAI proposes that the ASI internal policy of removing post-AD
> 1700 monuments from the RMP has to change, and that the ASI needs to better
> acknowledge the post-AD 1700 archaeological resource.
>
> · The NIAH should record all post-AD 1700 monuments on a
> comprehensive rather than selective basis, thereby fulfilling its remit as a
> national inventory.
>
> · IAI contends that there is an opportunity to tap into LEADER
> funding and the Jobbridge national internship scheme to assist in the
> recording of all post-AD 1700 monuments. Such an initiative could also
> provide training opportunities for unemployed persons, particularly those in
> the archaeological profession.
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