Hi Claire
Yes I got that impression there too. It seems that we need to clarify where or who we should be listening to as there is a lot of contradicting information emerging.
Ian
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From: "Claire Gibbons" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, May 26, 2011 10:47
Subject: Changes to the rules on using cookies and similar technologies for storing information
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Hi Brian
Very good points and I agree that it seems daft that we are all doing the same thing. Happy to get involved.
Interestingly I was at an event in London yesterday re: BS8878 and WCAG2.0 and how greater personalisation can lead to great accessibility. So the law (Equality Act 2010) and resulting British Standard (BS8878) is potentially at odds with an ICO law.
Confused.com?
You betcha.
C.
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From: Managing institutional Web services [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: 26 May 2011 10:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Changes to the rules on using cookies and similar technologies for storing information
Hi Adrian
“Now I’d better get on and write a page about cookies for our site...!”
And so will people at ~160 other UK Universities and replicate work , loose benefits of collaboration, many eyes, …!
More importantly if we want to provide the ‘business-friendly’ solution which Ed Vaizey has said the Government is looking for we need to provide a sectoral response. The last thing we need is for University A to provide an ICO-style optin/optout box on every page whilst University B feels that encouraging use of privacy-compliant browsers and user education is an appropriate response.
There is a session on Online Privacy at IWMW 2011. There is also a slot which could be used at the end of the event. Could we come up with some proposals for how the sector should respond? Anyone interested in getting involved in a small group to do this?
I’ve posted some thoughts on this at:
http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/how-should-uk-universities-respond-to-eu-cookie-legislation/
Thanks
Brian
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From: Managing institutional Web services [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adrian Tribe
Sent: 26 May 2011 08:15
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Changes to the rules on using cookies and similar technologies for storing information
It’s reassuring to hear that the ICO were saying yesterday that “Organisations and
businesses that run websites aimed at UK consumers are being given up to 12
months to ‘get their house in order’ before enforcement of the new EU cookies
law begins”.
Not that this means we can all forget about it for 12 months of course, as the same
ICO press release goes on to say: “So we’re giving businesses and organisations
up to one year to get their house in order. This does not let everyone off the hook.
Those who choose to do nothing will have their lack of action taken into account
when we begin formal enforcement of the rules.”
So the approach of adding something general to terms and conditions / privacy
policy pages now, while then taking time to think through the most appropriate
course of action according to our own use of cookies seems a very sensible one
to me.
Now I’d better get on and write a page about cookies for our site...!
Best wishes,
Adrian
From: Managing institutional Web services [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: 24 May 2011 16:55
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Changes to the rules on using cookies and similar technologies for storing information
Hi Claire
As I have just mentioned on Twitter I have published a survey of the privacy settings for the 20 UK Russell Group University Web sites: see http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/privacy-settings-for-uk-russell-group-university-home-pages/
I used the W3C Privacy Dashboard – a FireFox extension – for the survey.
Note that Dave Raggett, the developer, will be talking about privacy issues at IWMW 2011, to be held at the University of Reading on 26-27 July – see http://iwmw.ukoln.ac.uk/iwmw2011/
I’d be interested to hear if anyone is planning to provide a machine-readable statement of their privacy policies.
Brian
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From: Managing institutional Web services [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Claire Gibbons
Sent: 24 May 2011 11:33
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Changes to the rules on using cookies and similar technologies for storing information
Hi all
Has anyone done anything in particular in response to the changes to the rules on using cookies and similar technologies for storing information from the ICO?
http://www.ico.gov.uk/~/media/documents/library/Privacy_and_electronic/Practical_application/advice_on_the_new_cookies_regulations.pdf
We were going to update and add to our privacy policy in terms of what cookies we use and why, and that’s about it for now.
Useful article: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterprise/367198/ico-browser-settings-not-enough-for-cookies-law
“The ICO said it will issue "separate guidance" on how it plans to enforce the new regulations, but stressed it would only investigate websites after receiving a complaint, and then will merely require sites to show they have a "realistic plan to achieve compliance".”
Cheers
C.
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