Harold,
You wrote "...are designers whether they use the language of design or
not." I too believe that designing is an activity that one need not
be conscious of while executing. If one is conscious that one is
designing or must design in some situation, then one can bring to
bear, consciously, a body of knowledge that *should* help one design
better. However, I do believe it is possible to design without
knowing one is designing.
You also wrote "designing is a systemic relationship among people
playing out their diverse roles in a social system." Maybe /that/ is
being too narrow too. I don't doubt that designing can be a social
process, but can't it also be something that one does by oneself for
oneself?
Cheers.
Fil
On 29 March 2011 12:28, Harold Nelson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Derek
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> For me this is too narrow of a perspective on designing. The label 'designer' is being used to point out certain normative boundaries around traditional design fields. There is much more to designing than that. I have worked, researched and taught in the area of design 'programming' or brief development in the past. Designing includes work prior to the development of performance specs which are developed prior to prescriptive specs. etc. There are a vast host of people in a variety of roles that are involved in designing from the beginning. Most major design decision are made prior to and during the development of a brief. For example leadership is a form of designing that goes beyond the typical positional claim on leadership and the boundaries of established design fields. The most successful CEOs for are designers whether they use the language of design or not.
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> Also designing is a systemic relationship among people playing out their diverse roles in a social system. It is not a process of one individual or group (e.g. clients) handing directions off to another (e.g. instrumental designers). The activity of designing goes far beyond the traditional fields taught in universities. Democracies are designed, policies are designed, organizations are designed etc.
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> Regards
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> Harold
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