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A quick straw poll, do any of your institutions use Turnitin?
Yes
and if you do, do you have a threshold percentage set for the
originality report which triggers a plagiarism investigation?
No (still working on a policy to encompass issues like this)
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:56:40 -0000
From: Roz Howard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Use of turnitin advice
Hello
A quick straw poll, do any of your institutions use Turnitin?
and if you do, do you have a threshold percentage set for the
originality report which triggers a plagiarism investigation?
I would be grateful of any feedback and process you put in place to
support the threshold?
Thank you for your time
Regards
Roz"
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Information Literacy Project Manager
The Library
University of Salford
Allerton Building
Salford M6 6PU
0161 295 2441
07799075845
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:16:46 +0000
From: "Niels R. Walet" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Use of turnitin advice
Roz Howard wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> A quick straw poll, do any of your institutions use Turnitin?
>
> and if you do, do you have a threshold percentage set for the
> originality report which triggers a plagiarism investigation?
>
> I would be grateful of any feedback and process you put in place to
> support the threshold?
>
> Thank you for your time
>
> Regards
>
> Roz”
>
>
>
>
>
> *******************************************************
>
> Roz Howard
>
> Academic Support Manager for College of Health & Social Care
>
> Information Literacy Project Manager
>
> The Library
>
> University of Salford
>
> Allerton Building
>
> Salford M6 6PU
>
>
>
> /0161 295 2441/
>
> /07799075845/
>
>
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Many of us do use turnitin, but I hope that none use a "threshold". The
most painful thing to learn about turnitin is that the percentage scores
have little to do with plagiarism without considering many other factors
(number of sources, common phrases, length of report,subject area,...).
The person managing the essay will have to look down the submission
list, and decide what needs to be investigated by looking at the
reports! From essay to essay, you can probably decide on a lower
boundary where the originality reports don't require (detailed) scrutiny.
Niels
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:25:09 -0000
From: Anne Flood <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Use of turnitin advice
Hi, Roz,
The threshold will vary - it very much depends on whether the piece is being
used formatively or summatively, and the subject matter in question.
For example, if you have someone who is undertaking work where there are
very few resources, then you would expect there to be a higher number of
matches. Similarly, if you have an 1st year undergraduate group all writing
about Freud's theory of personality, say, then the matches would also be
high.
Our advice is to check everything that comes back 'red' (75% +) and 'blue'
(0%) (this usually indicates there are no citations/references in the
piece). We also advise that all work is checked if a class consists of less
than, say, 70 students, and that a sample of all work is checked if the
students numbers are over 70.
Kind regards,
Anne
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roz Howard
Sent: 01 December 2010 08:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Use of turnitin advice
Hello
A quick straw poll, do any of your institutions use Turnitin?
and if you do, do you have a threshold percentage set for the originality
report which triggers a plagiarism investigation?
I would be grateful of any feedback and process you put in place to support
the threshold?
Thank you for your time
Regards
Roz"
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Roz Howard
Academic Support Manager for College of Health & Social Care
Information Literacy Project Manager
The Library
University of Salford
Allerton Building
Salford M6 6PU
0161 295 2441
07799075845
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:53:12 +0000
From: Jude Carroll <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Use of turnitin advice
Hello all, hello Roz amd hello Anne who just made some suggestions on
'checking'.
First, I think one of the real advantages of a mail base like this is how
people are will pile in and make suggestions, even if they are ones which
pop up so often. I actually had this question already today in the 'real'
world, not on discussion lists. So, a hot topic.
Next, I suggest a very specific meaning of the word 'check' which Anne uses
in her suggestion as to how to treat, say, 70 students' work. For many
academics, this 'checking' might imply a detailed scrutiny. In fact, I
would say, it means literally a five second scan for how the percentage is
derived. Click on the icon 'traffic light' coloured square - is that 38%
from one source, three? twelve at 3% each, sixty seven? I'd classify the
first as worth more time, the second yes, the third....hmmmm, depends (Anne
sets out useful criteria] , the last, no, move on. Usually, this means a
reasonable number, even from a list of 70, within a reasonably short time.
When I talk to academics about this, you can feel their shoulders drop a
bit.
Jude
On 1 December 2010 09:25, Anne Flood <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi, Roz,
>
>
>
> The threshold will vary – it very much depends on whether the piece is
> being used formatively or summatively, and the subject matter in question.
>
>
>
> For example, if you have someone who is undertaking work where there are
> very few resources, then you would expect there to be a higher number of
> matches. Similarly, if you have an 1st year undergraduate group all
> writing about Freud’s theory of personality, say, then the matches would
> also be high.
>
>
>
> Our advice is to check everything that comes back ‘red’ (75% +) and ‘blue’
> (0%) (this usually indicates there are no citations/references in the
> piece). We also advise that all work is checked if a class consists of less
> than, say, 70 students, and that a sample of all work is checked if the
> students numbers are over 70.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> *From:* Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Roz
> Howard
> *Sent:* 01 December 2010 08:57
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Use of turnitin advice
>
>
>
> Hello
>
> A quick straw poll, do any of your institutions use Turnitin?
>
> and if you do, do you have a threshold percentage set for the originality
> report which triggers a plagiarism investigation?
>
> I would be grateful of any feedback and process you put in place to support
> the threshold?
>
> Thank you for your time
>
> Regards
>
> Roz”
>
>
>
>
>
> *******************************************************
>
> Roz Howard
>
> Academic Support Manager for College of Health & Social Care
>
> Information Literacy Project Manager
>
> The Library
>
> University of Salford
>
> Allerton Building
>
> Salford M6 6PU
>
>
>
> *0161 295 2441*
>
> *07799075845*
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:03:44 -0000
From: Lynn Shaw <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Use of turnitin advice
Hi
Although we have a guiding threshold, the scanning approach is the one I
use when looking at submissions. Often I find that a good number of the
matches are small and to other students' work for the same assignment
because they are the common language of the subject. This means that
they can be ignored quite easily and without too much time being
consumed. Bigger matches might be collusion and they like the rest of
the work that has caused concern get lots of attention to detail to
understand what is going on.
Lynn
Lynn J Shaw
Head of Operational Management and Development
Professional Higher Education
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From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jude
Carroll
Sent: 01 December 2010 09:53
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Use of turnitin advice
Hello all, hello Roz amd hello Anne who just made some suggestions on
'checking'.
First, I think one of the real advantages of a mail base like this is
how people are will pile in and make suggestions, even if they are ones
which pop up so often. I actually had this question already today in
the 'real' world, not on discussion lists. So, a hot topic.
Next, I suggest a very specific meaning of the word 'check' which Anne
uses in her suggestion as to how to treat, say, 70 students' work. For
many academics, this 'checking' might imply a detailed scrutiny. In
fact, I would say, it means literally a five second scan for how the
percentage is derived. Click on the icon 'traffic light' coloured
square - is that 38% from one source, three? twelve at 3% each, sixty
seven? I'd classify the first as worth more time, the second yes, the
third....hmmmm, depends (Anne sets out useful criteria] , the last, no,
move on. Usually, this means a reasonable number, even from a list of
70, within a reasonably short time.
When I talk to academics about this, you can feel their shoulders drop a
bit.
Jude
On 1 December 2010 09:25, Anne Flood <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi, Roz,
The threshold will vary - it very much depends on whether the
piece is being used formatively or summatively, and the subject matter
in question.
For example, if you have someone who is undertaking work where
there are very few resources, then you would expect there to be a higher
number of matches. Similarly, if you have an 1st year undergraduate
group all writing about Freud's theory of personality, say, then the
matches would also be high.
Our advice is to check everything that comes back 'red' (75% +)
and 'blue' (0%) (this usually indicates there are no
citations/references in the piece). We also advise that all work is
checked if a class consists of less than, say, 70 students, and that a
sample of all work is checked if the students numbers are over 70.
Kind regards,
Anne
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Roz Howard
Sent: 01 December 2010 08:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Use of turnitin advice
Hello
A quick straw poll, do any of your institutions use Turnitin?
and if you do, do you have a threshold percentage set for the
originality report which triggers a plagiarism investigation?
I would be grateful of any feedback and process you put in place
to support the threshold?
Thank you for your time
Regards
Roz"
*******************************************************
Roz Howard
Academic Support Manager for College of Health & Social Care
Information Literacy Project Manager
The Library
University of Salford
Allerton Building
Salford M6 6PU
0161 295 2441
07799075845
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