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Re: "Benefits reform"

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Statistics on Jobseeeker's Allowance sanctions are available from http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/index.php?page=tabtool. They have National Statistics status.



They show that in the year to April 2010 inclusive there were 22,450 decisions adverse to the claimant for refusal of employment (varied length sanctions). 



The number increased over the months prior to the election - from around 1,000 a month to around 3,000. This probably relates to the Labour introduction of Future Jobs Fund jobs (now terminated) with jobs offered that were in effect mandatory because of the benefit rules (but paid as jobs rather than working for benefit).



There are separate figures for individuals sanctioned rather than referrals (the above figures) that might give some sense of the numbers of multiply sanctioned individuals.



The DWP figures are much higher and seem to apply to all sanctions not just refusal of employment. 



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Subject: Re: "Benefits reform"



There have been sanctions against people who refuse offers of jobs since the 1911 National Insurance Act.  They are of little effect if there are no jobs.  Anyone who doesn't want a particular jon and has any sense at all can arrange not to get appointed to it.  The DWP seem to be claiming that "Between April 2009 and March 2010 about 97,000 fixed-length about 

59,000 sanctions of variable lengths were imposed."   Those figures seem 

surprisingly high.  I doubt if many of those sanctions relate to people refusing jobs.  They are probably about people who didn't "take steps" 

which the DWP wanted them to take.



On 11/11/10 18:06, Ted Harding wrote:

> Greetings All.

>

> The details of the planned reforms to benefits, and in particular the 

> "sanctions" to be applied to people who do not take jobs which are 

> available, remain obscure.

>

> I read: 'There will be tougher penalties for people fit to work but 

> unwilling to do so. A sliding scale of sanctions will see those 

> refusing work on three occasions having their benefits taken away for 

> three months.'

> ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11728546 )

>

> It has struck me that, by imposing penalties when work is available 

> but is not taken up, without any apparent restraints on what work is 

> offered, and how, opens the door for employers to offer demanding work 

> at minimal wages, taking advantage of the sanctions that would be 

> imposed on those who turn it down.

>

> In other words, opening the door to a "gangmaster"

> society (with, perhaps, the Government being Chief Gangmaster).

>

> I also read (same URL):

>    '"In prosperous times this dependency culture

>     would be unsustainable but today it's a national

>     crisis," said Mr Duncan Smith.

>

>     He said 70% of the four million new jobs created

>     during one of the longest economic booms in

>     history had gone to foreign workers, while 4.5

>     million British people continued a life on benefits.

>

>    "Businesses had to bring people in from overseas

>     because our welfare system did not encourage or

>     even assist people to take those jobs," said

>     the minister.'

>

> I think this is probably a mis-representation of the reasons why 

> businesses "brought in" people from overseas.

> Surely one of the main reasons is two-fold:

>

> a) Many people from impoverished communites in countries

>     newly admitted to the EU sought to come to the UK

>     where jobs were avialble;

> b) They were willing to work for a pittance (by UK standards),

>     and live in poor conditions, in order to be able to send

>     money home.

>

> And employers were thus able to employ them at much less than it would 

> cost to employ UK nationals. And the gangmasters nicely organised it 

> all.

>

> The above is probably a partially-informed opinion, and I would be 

> obliged for any better-informed comment.

>

> Ted.

>

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