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My Dad said that his grandmother, born in Poland, kissed the hand of the
Catholic priest from their parish is Nanticoke, Pennsylvania when he
came to call.
Tom Izbicki
James ODriscoll wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
> In Eastern orthodox eastern Europe it is still the custom to kiss
> apriest's hand( and in many places to kiss tha hand of one's parents)
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> From: susan ridyard <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [M-R] Kissing the hand of the celebrant?
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> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 12:38 PM
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>> It seems my question wasn't so obvious after all! The context I'm
>> working with is an account of a cure of a mad woman who
>> afterwards attends Mass, gives a penny at the offertory, and
>> kisses the hand of the priest as a sane woman would -- which
>> seems to imply that it's normal practice for a lay person to do this.
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>> Jungmann has a lot on kissing (see index) but nothing, I think,
>> which would answer your question precisely. There's an article by
>> Herbert Thurston in the old Catholic Encyclopedia
>> <http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08663a.htm> but it must be very
>> outdated now. There was a fair amount of ritual kissing of
>> objects by the clergy (and perhaps servers) in the sanctuary, the
>> introduction of which Jungmann seems to date from the 12th or
>> 13th centuries, and the more ancient ritual kissing of persons at
>> the sign of peace. However, I wonder if any parishioner would be
>> kissing the priest's hand directly during Mass, given that in
>> this period the osculatorium or pax brede was used as an
>> intermediary instrument for the exchange of pax before communion.
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>> Perhaps there is something in/ Dictionnaire d'archéologie
>> chrétienne et de liturgie/?
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>> A recent book on CHristian ritual kissing, not relevant to
>> Susan's inquiry but perhaps of general interest, is Michael
>> Philip Penn,/ Kissing Christians: Ritual and Community in the
>> Late Ancient Church/, Divinations, Philadelphia, Pa: University
>> of Pennsylvania Press, 2005 reviewed here:
>> <http://tinyurl.com/28va8vw>. --
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>> On 9 August 2010 03:08, susan ridyard <[log in to unmask]
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>> Dear list-members
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>> Another question to which I'm sure I SHOULD know the answer
>> ... does anyone know whether it was the norm in C13 England
>> for a parishioner to kiss the hand of the celebrant either at
>> the offertory or at any other point in the Mass? Or where
>> this might be discussed?
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>>
>> Sue
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