Yes I did mean Stannary. Thanks for the correction. The suffixes ery and ary mean the same thing I suspect.
 
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:02:55 +0100
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> Subject: Re: Mendip Calamineries
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> Roger
> 
> Did you mean Stannary?
> 
> Phil
> 
> Roger Hutchins wrote:
> > On the subject of "Calaminery". Was the word meant to be "Cala-minery" or "Calamine-ery"
> >
> > I suggest that the suffix "ery" was attached to calamine as in "Stannery" "Fishery" "Bakery" "Colliery" etc.
> > The Suffix "ery" can denote occupation, place or establishment or things collectively. 
> > 
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:23:14 +0100
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> >> Subject: Mendip Calamineries
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> >> Peter's response to my examples of the use of 'minery':-
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>> To my mind there are two forms there - 'minery' in the geographical sense, 
> >>> referring to a mining field or liberty and encompassing all the processes 
> >>> carried out there (as on Mendip), and the other as a skill, as in having a 
> >>> knowledge of 'minery'. I suspect it was very much a term of its time - the 
> >>> 17th/18th centuries.
> >>> 
> >>
> >> prompted me to revisit Gough and, on the basis of a rapid skim through, I 
> >> found the following on the subject of mineries:-
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> p.72 Example of laws from Queen Mary's reign - 'The oulde Auncyent 
> >> Custum of the occupasyon of the mynerys in and upon the Quyns majestys 
> >> forest of Mendyp wythyn her gracys countye of Somerset being one of the iiij 
> >> stapulls of Ynglon which hath bene exersysd and contynuyd thrugh the seyd 
> >> forest from the tyme whereof man hath noo memory as here after doth 
> >> pertyculerly doth Apere'.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> p.74 Now the first recorded meeting of the Minery Court of Chewton took 
> >> place on 10 July 1554, and it was then stated that before that time the 
> >> workmen in the mines had 'claimed Customes to and for their Occupation . 
> >> amongst themselves to be observed and kept'.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> p.89 To each of the four lordships there belonged a 'minery', where the 
> >> 'buddles', or washing places, and smelting-furnaces and storehouses were, 
> >> and where the lead-reeves performed many of their functions; the minery was 
> >> in fact, the head-quarters in each district, and thither the miners, having 
> >> obtained their ore from the pits all over the hills, brought it for making 
> >> into lead, weighing, payment of 'lot-lead', and so on.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The first two quotes cover the codification of long established, but 
> >> unwritten, mining laws, under Queen Mary (1553-1558). Like similar laws 
> >> elsewhere, they set out the process for getting permission to mine and cover 
> >> relationships between miners, and miners and the mineral lord(s). The 
> >> Mendip laws also allow "that any workman hath landyd Any wore [ore] he maye 
> >> carre hyt to weshing and blowing [smelting] to what myndry [minery] he 
> >> semyth best for hys proffyt and commodyte so that he doo paye the tenth of 
> >> that in lede or wore to the lord of the soyll where hyt was dygyd etc".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The last quote (p.89), Gough's attempt to sum the situation up, seems to 
> >> rely on this freedom to move ore between mineries for dressing and smelting. 
> >> Peter now seems to accept that, as I proposed in my first response, "Perhaps 
> >> Gough drew his definition too tightly" and the consequent error of his own 
> >> statement "As you will know - the 'minery' on Mendip was a lead ore 
> >> processing area.", accepting instead that it refers to the area being mined 
> >> (including provision for dressing and smelting). He goes on to suggest that 
> >> minery's other meaning is "of its time", which is harder to prove one way or 
> >> the other. Nevertheless, there are other examples of a word having similar 
> >> dual uses, e.g. surgery (a place) - where surgery (the skill) is practised.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would suggest that to equate minery with liberty is also wrong and that it 
> >> was more tightly related to the area actually being mined, as opposed to a 
> >> wider area over which the rights to the minerals (if any) are owned. The 
> >> old map used by Gough has symbolic representation of the four mineries, and 
> >> whilst not strictly accurate, it is adequate enough to suggest that they 
> >> differ from the liberties.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 
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