19.
Out of hundreds of library staff on LIS-Medical. That sort of poor statistical analysis is what started off this thread in the first place. 
And I know it may be a controversial view but when my profession is being attacked, I find no problem using work time to discuss it with my fellow professionals. The infamous nightdress issue of 2006 (2005 ? 2004 ?) was probably not the best use of a librarian mailing list but this seems quite appropriate.

There, email written in less than 0.2% of my working day, and email read by others in probably less than 0.1% of their working day... :-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Andrew Booth
Sent: 14 July 2010 14:42
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge

And then some might say 17 (now 18!) email messages sent on the subject 
between 9-5 over two consecutive working days rather proves his point!

Not, I hasten to add, that I am one of them.

Andrew


Prue, Andy said the following on 14/07/2010 12:27:
> Hi Margaret
> 
> I appreciate your point and accept that every profession has to
> continuously justify themselves. But I recall a BBC series that was on a
> while back, Gerry Robinson looking into the management of an NHS Trust.
> During that comments were made regarding the utilization of surgical
> theatres. Many stood idle for most of the time.
> Was the conclusion to axe surgical staff? No of course not, what
> happened was a fantastic exercise in utilizing a resource efficiently,
> thereby maximizing its cost-benefit.
> 
> Rather than looking to axe, should we be looking to maximize the use of
> a fantastic NHS workforce, a world leader one might argue.
> 
> If we really want to make cuts, how about starting with the Doctor's
> Mess and associated SKY subscriptions, do Nurses have this luxury?
> 
> Sorry for the rant!!!
> 
> Andy ;-)
>  
> Andy Prue
> Web Development Librarian
> KSS Library & Knowledge Services Development Team,
> Calverley House, 55 Calverley Road
> Tunbridge Wells, Kent  TN1 2TU
> 
> Tel: 01892 - 704246
> email: [log in to unmask]   
> URL: http://www.ksslibraries.nhs.uk  
> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/andyprue  
> ************************************************
> "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a
> dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle
> ground between light and shadow - between science and superstition. And
> it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
> This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The
> Twilight Zone".
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rowley, Margaret
> (Knowledge Management)
> Sent: 14 July 2010 12:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> Unfortunately the attitude is actually quite common, and can be found
> among senior managers in charge of making cuts.  I'm pleased to see that
> there is now a string of comments on the web site explaining what
> librarians contribute to the NHS, and the more of these there are the
> better.  We have to continually make our case heard I'm afraid.
> 
> Margaret Rowley BSc MA MCLIP DMS 
> Head of Knowledge Management
> Worcestershire Health ICT Services
> Rowlands Library
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> Worcestershire Royal Hospital
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> Worcester
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Prue, Andy
> Sent: 14 July 2010 11:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> Stephen
> 
> Far from it, I feel 'this observation' is an isolated voice and should
> be treated with the contempt it deserves. I would at least have expected
> some empirical evidence to back the claim, not just anecdote. For
> goodness sake, we're supposed to be cultivating an evidenced-based
> environment in our health service, not one based on ill-informed
> comments.
> 
> One issue that it does raise is that of professional courtesy. I thought
> we were all part of a multi-disciplinary Team NHS, obviously not, when
> one profession rounds like this on another. So much for solidarity or am
> I just naive!!!
> 
> Sorry for the tone of this response, it's just that I read the post on
> the Treasury site and am seething into my tea!!!
> 
> Angry of Tunbridge Wells :-(
>  
> Andy Prue
> Web Development Librarian
> KSS Library & Knowledge Services Development Team,
> Calverley House, 55 Calverley Road
> Tunbridge Wells, Kent  TN1 2TU
> 
> Tel: 01892 - 704246
> email: [log in to unmask]   
> URL: http://www.ksslibraries.nhs.uk  
> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/andyprue  
> ************************************************
> "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a
> dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle
> ground between light and shadow - between science and superstition. And
> it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
> This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The
> Twilight Zone".
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Norrey Barbara (5PX)
> Mid Essex PCT
> Sent: 14 July 2010 11:29
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ayre Stephen
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:48
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Before we descend into ad hominem attacks, we do need to take this
> observation seriously. If it is true, it is a scandalous waste of public
> money. An overstaffed or underemployed facility will do us no favours.
> It is also a useful indication of how we are perceived. Unfortunately
> the work we do at the higher end of the value chain is less visible.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Stephen Ayre MA, MCLIP
> Clinical Librarian
> William Harvey Library
> George Eliot Hospital
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Bruch (Hywel Dda
> Health Board - )
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> We need to find him/her and show them how helpful the library staff
> could be if approached. Or maybe put a comment about the fact that many
> locum doctors seem to spend vast amounts of time lounging in the library
> reading the paper while getting paid vast amounts of money?
> 
> Sarah
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Nokes
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:38
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> Isn't it just !  Maybe someone should suggest the staff might usefully
> help this registrar to spell !
> 
> Elizabeth Nokes
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deborah Lepley
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:23
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Government Spending Challenge
> 
> I found this unhelpful comment on the Government Spending Challenge
> website:
> 
> http://spendingchallenge.hm-treasury.gov.uk/how-can-we-rethink-public-se
> rvices-to-deliver-more-for-less/cut-hospital-library-staff
> 
> Regards
> 
> Deborah Lepley
> 
> E-Training Librarian
> Broomfield Hospital
> Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 7ET
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