Andrew
Is that not the point of a discussion list?
Andy Prue
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"There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a
dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle
ground between light and shadow - between science and superstition. And
it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The
Twilight Zone".
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Booth [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 14 July 2010 14:42
To: Prue, Andy
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
And then some might say 17 (now 18!) email messages sent on the subject
between 9-5 over two consecutive working days rather proves his point!
Not, I hasten to add, that I am one of them.
Andrew
Prue, Andy said the following on 14/07/2010 12:27:
> Hi Margaret
>
> I appreciate your point and accept that every profession has to
> continuously justify themselves. But I recall a BBC series that was on
a
> while back, Gerry Robinson looking into the management of an NHS
Trust.
> During that comments were made regarding the utilization of surgical
> theatres. Many stood idle for most of the time.
> Was the conclusion to axe surgical staff? No of course not, what
> happened was a fantastic exercise in utilizing a resource efficiently,
> thereby maximizing its cost-benefit.
>
> Rather than looking to axe, should we be looking to maximize the use
of
> a fantastic NHS workforce, a world leader one might argue.
>
> If we really want to make cuts, how about starting with the Doctor's
> Mess and associated SKY subscriptions, do Nurses have this luxury?
>
> Sorry for the rant!!!
>
> Andy ;-)
>
> Andy Prue
> Web Development Librarian
> KSS Library & Knowledge Services Development Team,
> Calverley House, 55 Calverley Road
> Tunbridge Wells, Kent TN1 2TU
>
> Tel: 01892 - 704246
> email: [log in to unmask]
> URL: http://www.ksslibraries.nhs.uk
> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/andyprue
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> "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a
> dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the
middle
> ground between light and shadow - between science and superstition.
And
> it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his
knowledge.
> This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The
> Twilight Zone".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rowley, Margaret
> (Knowledge Management)
> Sent: 14 July 2010 12:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
>
> Unfortunately the attitude is actually quite common, and can be found
> among senior managers in charge of making cuts. I'm pleased to see
that
> there is now a string of comments on the web site explaining what
> librarians contribute to the NHS, and the more of these there are the
> better. We have to continually make our case heard I'm afraid.
>
> Margaret Rowley BSc MA MCLIP DMS
> Head of Knowledge Management
> Worcestershire Health ICT Services
> Rowlands Library
> Charles Hastings Education Centre
> Worcestershire Royal Hospital
> Charles Hastings Way
> Worcester
> WR5 1DD
>
> Tel: 01905 760601 (direct)
> 01905 763333 ext 33765
> Mob:07788 415799
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Prue, Andy
> Sent: 14 July 2010 11:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
>
> Stephen
>
> Far from it, I feel 'this observation' is an isolated voice and should
> be treated with the contempt it deserves. I would at least have
expected
> some empirical evidence to back the claim, not just anecdote. For
> goodness sake, we're supposed to be cultivating an evidenced-based
> environment in our health service, not one based on ill-informed
> comments.
>
> One issue that it does raise is that of professional courtesy. I
thought
> we were all part of a multi-disciplinary Team NHS, obviously not, when
> one profession rounds like this on another. So much for solidarity or
am
> I just naive!!!
>
> Sorry for the tone of this response, it's just that I read the post on
> the Treasury site and am seething into my tea!!!
>
> Angry of Tunbridge Wells :-(
>
> Andy Prue
> Web Development Librarian
> KSS Library & Knowledge Services Development Team,
> Calverley House, 55 Calverley Road
> Tunbridge Wells, Kent TN1 2TU
>
> Tel: 01892 - 704246
> email: [log in to unmask]
> URL: http://www.ksslibraries.nhs.uk
> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/andyprue
> ************************************************
> "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a
> dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the
middle
> ground between light and shadow - between science and superstition.
And
> it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his
knowledge.
> This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The
> Twilight Zone".
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Norrey Barbara (5PX)
> Mid Essex PCT
> Sent: 14 July 2010 11:29
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ayre Stephen
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:48
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Before we descend into ad hominem attacks, we do need to take this
> observation seriously. If it is true, it is a scandalous waste of
public
> money. An overstaffed or underemployed facility will do us no favours.
> It is also a useful indication of how we are perceived. Unfortunately
> the work we do at the higher end of the value chain is less visible.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stephen Ayre MA, MCLIP
> Clinical Librarian
> William Harvey Library
> George Eliot Hospital
> College Street
> Nuneaton
> Warwickshire
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>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Bruch (Hywel
Dda
> Health Board - )
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
>
> We need to find him/her and show them how helpful the library staff
> could be if approached. Or maybe put a comment about the fact that
many
> locum doctors seem to spend vast amounts of time lounging in the
library
> reading the paper while getting paid vast amounts of money?
>
> Sarah
>
> Enw/Name: Sarah Bruch BSc (Hons), MScDip Teitl/ Title:Rheolwr
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Nokes
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:38
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Government Spending Challenge
>
> Isn't it just ! Maybe someone should suggest the staff might usefully
> help this registrar to spell !
>
> Elizabeth Nokes
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deborah Lepley
> Sent: 13 July 2010 16:23
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Government Spending Challenge
>
> I found this unhelpful comment on the Government Spending Challenge
> website:
>
>
http://spendingchallenge.hm-treasury.gov.uk/how-can-we-rethink-public-se
> rvices-to-deliver-more-for-less/cut-hospital-library-staff
>
> Regards
>
> Deborah Lepley
>
> E-Training Librarian
> Broomfield Hospital
> Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 7ET
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