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Yes, thank you John. It would appear that "the devil" was not yet fully
constructed by the late 4th century.
Cheers,
Jim
Christopher Crockett wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> what follows below is yet another indication --as if another were needed-- of
> what an asset this list possesses in having John Dillon as a member.
>
> a thorough and learnéd response to a reasonably difficult inquiry from
> another list member.
>
> John was kind enough to go out of his way to find me at last week's Zoo
> (which, i noted, has really become a Zoo) and introduce himself.
>
> thanks, John.
>
> c
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Fri, 21 May 2010 01:24:07 AM EDT
> From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 20. May
>
>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>>
>> On Thursday, May 20, 2010, at 7:43 pm, Jim Bugslag wrote apropos Lucifer of
>>
> Cagliari (d. ca. 371):
>
>>
>>
>>> Please allow me to introduce a bit of a problem here. Is it just me, or
>>>
> is this a particularly weird name for a saint of wealth and taste?
>
>>> Isn't the devil called Lucifer in the Bible itself? How would a Christian
>>>
> of that time end up with a name like that? It's sort of like an American
> family naming their child Osama, or something, isn't it?
>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jim
>>>
>> 1. I'm not aware of any passage in the Bible where the Devil is actually
>>
> called Lucifer (or the equivalent in Hebrew or in Greek). In the apostrophe
> at Isaiah 14:12:
>
>> http://bible.cc/isaiah/14-12.htm
>> http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/isa014.htm
>> the prophet's addressee (_Lucifer_ in the Vulgate and in many
>>
> English-language translations) is apparently a Babylonian king. Though
> Christian exegesis that's at least as old as Tertullian and Origen commonly
> interprets this as a reference to Satan, the text itself would not seem to
> advance such an identification.
>
>> 2. _Lucifer_ (literally 'light-bringer') is a common Latin term for the
>>
> morning star or daystar (Venus as observed matutinally). In the Vulgate, for
> example, it's used not only at Isaiah 14:12 but also (lower-case) at 2 Peter
> 1:19:
>
>> http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/pe2001.htm
>> where the referent is surely not Satan.
>>
>> 3. Lucifer of Cagliari's parents, if they knew their Bible, would thus have
>>
> had no reason to suppose that this synonym for the morning star (if that's
> what the Old Latin text used in their community actually read where the later
> St. Jerome uses _Lucifer_/_lucifer_) would automatically imply Satan.
>
>> 4. If, as seems reasonable to suppose, Lucifer of Cagliari's parents lived
>>
> in a community where Lucifer (or some non-Latin equivalent, e.g. Greek
> Φωσφόρος [Phosphoros]) already existed in the onomastic repertoire,
> the Biblical uses might have had little or no influence on how they named
> their son the future bishop (or, if L.'s parents were not Christian, on L.'s
> later choice to retain this name). Greek Φωσφόρος and Latin
> _Phosphorus_ occur as divine names in e.g. Syria and Dacia (we are uninformed
> as to L.'s ancestry) and a human Lucifer the son of P[h]osporus is attested in
> a Latin inscription from the city of Rome (_CIL_, VI. 8724).
>
>> Best,
>> John Dillon
>>
>
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