Hey Doug, where can we find the wonderful bpNichol cartoon?
In any case, thanks for mentioning it! Hilarious.
Rachel
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> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:49 PM
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> The problem with conceptualism IMHO is that once the concept of
> conceptualism is posited the rest is fill in the blanks. On the other
> hand, it's a lot less work than making artifacts.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> At 10:53 AM 4/16/2010, you wrote:
> >It's either 'the problem' or the point, Robin. Or, at least, sometimes
> >it is.
> >
> >I can think of some conceptual poetry that holds my attention, if
> >something like EUNOIA is seen as 'conceptual.'
> >
> >But, yes, it's the idea that makes its point.
> >
> >bpNichol once had a great little cartoon about this. First frame: guy
> >in a room thinking: 'sit on a stage for an hour saying nothing. Far
> >out!'; 2nd panel: guy on stage, thought balloons above audience
> >members all saying 'Boring!'; 3rd panel: audience member telling a
> >friend about thi guy sitting on a stage for an hour saying nothing, &
> >the friend thinking, 'Far out!'
> >
> >Doug
> >On 16-Apr-10, at 5:25 AM, Robin Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >>>On the other hand, such work allows a reader to 'get it' rather
> >>>quickly & then not bother reading the whole...?
> >>
> >>Isn't this the whole problem with conceptual poetry (and conceptual
> >>art generally), Doug?
> >>
> >>It's the idea rather than the actuality which counts.
> >>
> >>Robin
> >
> >Douglas Barbour
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> >
> >http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> >
> >Latest books:
> >Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> >Wednesdays'
>
>http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.
html
> >
> > The secret
> >
> >which got lost neither hides
> >nor reveals itself, it shows forth
> >
> >tokens.
> >
> > Charles Olson
>
> Announcing The Whole Island: Six Decades of Cuban Poetry (University
> of California Press).
> http://go.ucpress.edu/WholeIsland
>
> "Not since the 1982 publication of Paul Auster's Random House Book of
> Twentieth Century French Poetry has a bilingual anthology so
> effectively broadened the sense of poetic terrain outside the United
> States and also created a superb collection of foreign poems in
> English. There is nothing else like it." John Palattella in The
> Nation
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