you guys really think that no poet has ever stepped beyond something written
decades ago? well that's depressing.
if you're talking cultural effect/legacy/&c then the candidate list does
shrink quite a bit, but the global english-speaking cultural network (GESCN
for short) has completely metamorphosed since WWII, many times over
whatsmore. I think it may be unrealistic to expect some sort of artistic
spark that will ignite the english-speaking poetry world forever now that
the transmission of technology and of information is so different. at least
half a dozen significant new poetic forms have surfaced in a relatively
short period of time. Modernism was a big halloo because it was competing
with unquestioned metrics and frilly philosophy -- the step was huge because
it targeted form. the most deep-seated contents of poetry will never really
change, but form changes fairly rapidly, like bound and unbound morphemes.
for something to do modernism "over again", when competing against
postmodernism along with things like visual, spatial and google poetry, has
to be pretty mindblowing. I'm not holding my breath for any new poetry
revolutions.
although it would be naïve of me to think that I, or any of us, would be
able to effectively see outside of the box we're in. the only reason Eliot
and Pound "knew" they were doing the whole modernism shebang was because
they were pretty dang pretentious *while* being brilliant. every era or age
is named after the fact, and maybe what we're in now will one day be called
The Big Melting Space-Cheese Era or something. but I still won't hold my
breath, that's juvenile.
KS
On 27 April 2010 02:05, Jeffrey Side <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> If you mean by your question, Fred, the poems I write, then the answer is
> no. Indeed, that has been implicit in my posts on the other thread you are
> alluding to. Neither I nor any other poet has “stepped beyond” Eliot et
> al—to date, at least. Although, I do think some of Kerouac’s poetry comes
> close.
>
> If you mean by your question the poems I publish by others on the site,
> then my answer is the same.
>
>
> Original Message:
>
> Jeffrey, I'm curious about something. Do you consider the poems you
> published in The Argotist Online to represent a "step beyond" Eliot and
> Pound?
>
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