appalling or appealing?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: oxford prof of poetry?
>I just came across this rather appaeling interview with Hill from last year
> at:
>
> http://www.oxonianreview.org/wp/geoffrey-hill/
>
> I love his notion of 'serendipitous reading' as a prefered method of
> self-teaching for poets - of course I'm biased because that's exactly how I
> taught myself - and share his distaste of creative writing courses - and I
> like too his notion of opposing 'plutonic anarchy' - with all the dark
> overtones that plutonic has - the armed hell of money.
>
> On 30 March 2010 08:45, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, we looked at Nixon in China too (I've been continually doing courses
>> on music in the last couple of years as I can't think of many areas of
>> education outside language more necessary to a poet).
>>
>> Hill has always displayed an acute ear for pararhyme. It is a subdued
>> ornament to his bleakness.
>> On 30 March 2010 07:58, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> She's a very fine librettist. Nixon in China is impressive too. Fwiw,
>>> I'm a big admirer of that translation of Brand - one of the few verse
>>> versions that actually works. No doubt they give each other prosodic
>>> advice.
>>>
>>> xA
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM, David Bircumshaw
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> > Yup, his second wife, since 1987, as far as I know they haven't
>>> divorced.
>>> > Last I heard she'd become an Anglican chaplain at Trinity Cambridge. I
>>> was
>>> > looking at the text she did for Adams on a music course late last year:
>>> the
>>> > para-rhyming style reminded me of Hill's version of Brand.
>>> >
>>> > On 29 March 2010 23:51, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Was it? He's married to Alice Goodman? I had no idea.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not, mind you, that it has anything to do with anything. But she's
>>> >> practically a Communist!!!! She wrote about Mao and the PLO and
>>> >> everything!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM, David Bircumshaw
>>> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >> > ... while it was Hill's wife who wrote the libretto for John Adams'
>>> >> morality
>>> >> > opera on the Achille Lauro ...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 29 March 2010 23:33, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Wait till they rediscover the accusations about Mercian Hymns
>>> echoing
>>> >> Enoch
>>> >> >> Powell's speech in the Midland Hotel.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Myself, I don't think Hill did intend a link, but anyone who goes
>>> around
>>> >> >> giving his books epigraphs by C.H.Sisson is living dangerously when
>>> Tom
>>> >> >> Paulin's around ...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 29 March 2010 22:39, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Wow. I mean, wow.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> "Violent new face of poetry"? One of the nation's "most divisive
>>> >> poets"?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Mind you, the whole article is a beat-up. That journalist got out
>>> the
>>> >> >>> mixmaster good and proper.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> xA
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Max Richards <
>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > Doug,
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > How could you read the Ind online and not tell us about this?! -
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>>
>>> >>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/is-this-the-violent-
>>> >> >>> > new-face-of-poetry-at-oxford-1926988.html
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > Max
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > Quoting Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>:
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >> I just read this, but what does anyone over there know about
>>> her?
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/a-life-of-rhyme-
>>> >> >>> > kate-tempests-poetrymusic-fusion-1929779.html
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
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>>> >> >>>
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>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> David Bircumshaw
>>> >> >> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>> >> >> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>> >> >> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> >> >> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> >> >> The Animal Subsides
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>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > David Bircumshaw
>>> >> > "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>> >> > You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>> >> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> >> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> >> > The Animal Subsides
>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>> >> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>> >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>> >> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
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>>> >> Home page: http://www.alisoncroggon.com
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > David Bircumshaw
>>> > "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>> > You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com
>>> Home page: http://www.alisoncroggon.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> David Bircumshaw
> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
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