appeal, rings bells and holds promise of reprieve.
On 31 March 2010 10:26, Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> appalling or appealing?
>
> Roger
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
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> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: oxford prof of poetry?
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>
> I just came across this rather appaeling interview with Hill from last
>> year
>> at:
>>
>> http://www.oxonianreview.org/wp/geoffrey-hill/
>>
>> I love his notion of 'serendipitous reading' as a prefered method of
>> self-teaching for poets - of course I'm biased because that's exactly how
>> I
>> taught myself - and share his distaste of creative writing courses - and I
>> like too his notion of opposing 'plutonic anarchy' - with all the dark
>> overtones that plutonic has - the armed hell of money.
>>
>> On 30 March 2010 08:45, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, we looked at Nixon in China too (I've been continually doing courses
>>> on music in the last couple of years as I can't think of many areas of
>>> education outside language more necessary to a poet).
>>>
>>> Hill has always displayed an acute ear for pararhyme. It is a subdued
>>> ornament to his bleakness.
>>> On 30 March 2010 07:58, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> She's a very fine librettist. Nixon in China is impressive too. Fwiw,
>>>> I'm a big admirer of that translation of Brand - one of the few verse
>>>> versions that actually works. No doubt they give each other prosodic
>>>> advice.
>>>>
>>>> xA
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM, David Bircumshaw
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> > Yup, his second wife, since 1987, as far as I know they haven't
>>>> divorced.
>>>> > Last I heard she'd become an Anglican chaplain at Trinity Cambridge. I
>>>> was
>>>> > looking at the text she did for Adams on a music course late last
>>>> year:
>>>> the
>>>> > para-rhyming style reminded me of Hill's version of Brand.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 29 March 2010 23:51, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Was it? He's married to Alice Goodman? I had no idea.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Not, mind you, that it has anything to do with anything. But she's
>>>> >> practically a Communist!!!! She wrote about Mao and the PLO and
>>>> >> everything!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM, David Bircumshaw
>>>> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> >> > ... while it was Hill's wife who wrote the libretto for John Adams'
>>>> >> morality
>>>> >> > opera on the Achille Lauro ...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On 29 March 2010 23:33, David Bircumshaw <
>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Wait till they rediscover the accusations about Mercian Hymns
>>>> echoing
>>>> >> Enoch
>>>> >> >> Powell's speech in the Midland Hotel.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Myself, I don't think Hill did intend a link, but anyone who goes
>>>> around
>>>> >> >> giving his books epigraphs by C.H.Sisson is living dangerously
>>>> when
>>>> Tom
>>>> >> >> Paulin's around ...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On 29 March 2010 22:39, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> Wow. I mean, wow.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> "Violent new face of poetry"? One of the nation's "most divisive
>>>> >> poets"?
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Mind you, the whole article is a beat-up. That journalist got out
>>>> the
>>>> >> >>> mixmaster good and proper.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> xA
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Max Richards <
>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > Doug,
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > How could you read the Ind online and not tell us about this?!
>>>> -
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/is-this-the-violent-
>>>> >> >>> > new-face-of-poetry-at-oxford-1926988.html
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Max
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Quoting Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >> I just read this, but what does anyone over there know about
>>>> her?
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/a-life-of-rhyme-
>>>> >> >>> > kate-tempests-poetrymusic-fusion-1929779.html
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
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>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> David Bircumshaw
>>>> >> >> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>>> >> >> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
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>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > David Bircumshaw
>>>> >> > "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>>> >> > You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>>> >> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>> >> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>> >> > The Animal Subsides
>>>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
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>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > David Bircumshaw
>>>> > "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>>> > You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>>> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
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>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Bircumshaw
>>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>
>
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David Bircumshaw
"A window./Big enough to hold screams/
You say are poems" - DMeltzer
Website and A Chide's Alphabet
http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
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