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In the Life and Miracles of St. Modwenna (ed. and trans. Robert Bartlett) there is a series of posthumous miracles in which the saint causes the horrible death, maiming, illness etc. of those who try to steal her property or goods. Since Modwenna is an English version of the Irish St. Darerca, Darerca's miracle of causing the water to become so hot the thieves couldn't cross with their stolen cows is in the life of Modwenna as well. By the way, the Life of St. Darerca is available in translation in Liam de Paor's Saint Patrick's World and the Life of St. Samthann has been translated by Dorothy Africa and is included in Thomas Head's Medieval Hagiography,an Anthology.
Diane
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>Sounds a bit like the pot and the kettle. Three of Cadog's disciples were buried in a shrine at Bannauc in Scotland. Only the celibate were supposed to look at the shrine, but a devout peasant managed to get into the church. In punishment Cadoc caused his eye to split open so that the optic nerve hung down his face.
>Elissa Henken's The Welsh Saints: a study in patterned lives has lots of examples of punishment miracles. Cadog (again) was refused fire by a peasant. He cursed him, asking God to burn the man, the threshing floor and the grain, and to enslave his descendants. I can't actually find one of a statue bursting into flames but it wouldn't surprise me.
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>Maddy
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>From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Colmán O Clabaigh OSB
>Sent: 09 March 2010 07:58
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>I will try and dig out a few examples from Adomnán's Vita Columbae later in
>the day, but in the interim listmembers might like to ponder the inights of
>that most unbiased and impartial of observers, Gerald of Wales on this very
>topic:
>
>'This seems to me a thing to be noticed that just as the men of [Ireland]
>are during this mortal life more prone to anger and revenge than any other
>race, so in eternal death the saints of this land that have been elevated by
>their merits are more vindictive than the saints of any other region.'
>
>- Gerald of Wales, The History and Topography of Ireland.
>Source: Gerald of Wales, The History and Topography of Ireland. trans. John
>J. O'Meara, New York: Penguin Books, 1982. 91.
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>Be afraid, be very afraid!
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>Colmán Ó Clabaigh OSB
>Glenstal Abbey
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>From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of M Callan
>Sent: 08 March 2010 23:51
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>Subject: Re: [M-R] vengeful saints
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>You've probably got plenty of Irish references (especially Patrick--he can
>be vengeful indeed!), but here are a few more:
>
>Samthann caused an eel of enormous size to affix itself to the loins of a
>man as he crossed a stream on his way to an assignation with one of her nuns
>(Plummer, Vitae Sanctorum Hiberniae II. 256). She also beat a man who was
>trying to cheat her monastery of lumber with her staff in his dreams (ibid,
>258).
>
>When thieves stole food from a nun as she was delivering it to an anchoress,
>Darerca caused them to become hopelessly lost until they confessed their
>guilt and promised to atone (Heist, Vita Sanctorum Hiberniae, p91).
>
>If you want my translations of these passages from the Latin (I don't
>believe they've been published in translation as of yet), I'd be happy to
>send them to you.
>
>Maeve
>
>On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Cormack, Margaret Jean wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> Can any hagiographers on the list give me an example or two of saints
>> who (at least according to their vitae!) actively protect their
>> churches, monasteries, or dioceses? I want something a bit more local
>> than the Virgin Mary's tunic (?) protecting Byzantium - preferably
>> major disaster to someone who dared to steal the saint´s property,
>> however defined (with precise references,
>> please!)
>> Meg
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