medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Many thanks, George. Problem entirely solved now. Thanks again to
Cyprian and John.
Cheers,
Jim
eorge Brown wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> No improvement needed, Jim. One could interpret the tense of
> "convocat" as an "historical present," much used by both classical and
> postclassical authors to narrate events vividly. The "rogavit" then
> reverts to simple act in the past. We do something similar in English
> when we tell stories.
>
> GHB
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Dr Jim Bugslag wrote:
>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>> Many thanks, Cyprian. Having small Latin, I'm a bit confused about
>> the verbs here: "convocat" seems to be present, while "rogavit" is
>> perfect. If anyone can straighten me out, I'd be grateful. My
>> attempted translation is: Herod calls the kings to him without delay,
>> and asked them much about the one recently born." Any improvements
>> gladly accepted.
>> Cheers,
>> Jim
>>
>> Cyprian Rosen wrote:
>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>>> Dear Jim,
>>>
>>> I would interpret Deq_z as "deque" = et de.
>>>
>>> My Vulgate does not have the quoted phrase either.
>>>
>>> Cyprian Rosen
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> Bugslag
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:41 AM
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>>>> Subject: [M-R] Herod and the Magi
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>>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>>>>
>>>> Dear List,
>>>> I am currently looking at a print (alas, slightly post-medieval)
>>>> depicting the three Magi before Herod, which is accompanied by an
>>>> inscription: "Convocat Herodes ad se reges sine mora. Deq_z recens
>>>> nato, multa rogavit eos. Math. 2". I've looked at every reference to
>>>> Herod in Matthew 2, but this phrase is not there. Can anyone explain
>>>> this? And might someone with better Latin than me know how to expand
>>>> the contraction "Deq_z "?
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>>
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