Hi Zulfi,
our feedback is all spoken because we are a stand-alone
writing centre not connected to any dept or classes. We
provide tutoring for students from classes from all depts
of the College of Education. Our tutoring is not so much
about the English as it is about the writing, although we
do of course check grammar and syntax as we go along. But
mostly we look for structure, is there a thesis statement,
where is it, can I as Innocent Reader follow your
argument, is your writing clear (beyond correctness), etc.
So there's a lot of dialog that has to go on to explain to
the writer why I as Reader do/do not follow their point
and then showing them how to fix it.
Rebel
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:19:25 +0000
Zulfiqar Ahmed Qureshi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Rebel,
>
> Conducted between teachers and their students - not in a
>separate writing centre.
>
> I described 'written commentary' as default simply
>because here in the UK it is the standard response
>provided on academic texts. Conferences are used in some
>universities but not all over here and when they are -
>it's often as additional feedback to the written
>response.
>
> I believe there is a strong tradition of one to one
>conferencing on writing in the US in both classrooms and
>writing centres? It is something not so common over here.
>
> I find it very interesting that the feedback you provide
>is ALL spoken.
>
> Z
>
> Mr Zulfi Qureshi
> Senior Lecturer in English Language
> Course Leader for International Foundation Programme
> Tel: +44 (0) 1772 89 3677
> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>>>> Rebel Palm 07/02/10 3:53 AM >>>
> Hello all,
>
> I direct a graduate level writing center in the US, and
> I'm always trying to find out what goes on in other
> writing centers. I'm curious Zulfi, are these essays
> written as part of an EFL class, or are these
>conferences
> being conducted in a separate venue for writing where
>the
> writing might be being done for other disciplines?
>
> And what do you mean by "default 'written commentary'"?
>We
> don't do any written commentary at all with any of our
> students, international or NES, only verbal f2f
> conferences, so I'm interested that written commentary
> would be the default.
>
> Dr. Rebel Palm
> Graduate Student Writing Studio
> College of Education
> University of New Mexico
>
>
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:44:09 +0000
> Zulfiqar Ahmed Qureshi wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I am currently investigating the use of spoken feedback
>>with international students in one to one writing
>>conferences on their academic essay drafts (on a
>>foundation/pre-UG course) and wish to ask the following
>>of you all:
>>
>> 1) How many of you use such conferences with your EFL
>>sts to discuss essay writing drafts? Is it a common
>>feature of feedback methods employed by UK/European
>>universities on such courses (in addition to the default
>>'written commentary')?
>>
>> 2) Does anyone know of any studies conducted at
>>UK/European universities on this area as most are US
>>based.
>>
>> Many thanks for any help/responses you may be able to
>>offer.
>>
>> Zulfi
>>
>> Mr Zulfi Qureshi
>> Senior Lecturer in English Language
>> Course Leader for International Foundation Programme
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1772 89 3677
>> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>
>
> Bring to the act of writing all of your craft, care,
> devotion, lack of humbug, and honesty of sentiment. And
> then write without looking over your shoulder for the
> literary police. Write as if your life depended on
>saying
> what you felt as clearly as you could, while never
>losing
> sight of the phenomenon to be described.
> Norman Mailer, The Spooky Art
Bring to the act of writing all of your craft, care,
devotion, lack of humbug, and honesty of sentiment. And
then write without looking over your shoulder for the
literary police. Write as if your life depended on saying
what you felt as clearly as you could, while never losing
sight of the phenomenon to be described.
Norman Mailer, The Spooky Art
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