If temporal discontinuity has anything to do with a lack of ability to spell,
maybe I've already caught it. "Flue" indeed!
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:48:12 +0000, Mark Evans <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>Hi Janet
>
>Whilst there have been a few cases of swine flue on Campus, I'm pretty sure
>we're free of temporal discontinuity here at Loughborough. Well, there were
>certainly no references to it in the last RAE results. Just in-case I need to
>order some boxes of latex gloves, is it contagious?
>
>Mark (a jean wearing academic)
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>On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:33:37 +0000, Janet McDonnell
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>Dear Robert,
>>
>>Greetings from the future where what you envisage 'might' happen has
been
>going on for well over a decade. I think the temporal discontinuity must be
>your end rather than ours as we at CSM are surrounded by the same future
>here in London .... Goldsmiths, the Royal College, Chelsea .. to name but 3.
>Further afield there's Glasgow, Cardiff...........
>>
>>Catch up? Ridicule? Hmmmm!
>>
>>Happy Christmas ;-)
>>
>>Janet
>>
>>Professor Janet McDonnell
>>Central Saint Martins, University of the Arts London, Southampton Row,
>London WC1B 4AP
>>tel +44 (0) 207 514 7144
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>>From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
>research in Design [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert
>Harland [[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: 10 December 2009 15:50
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: You're late: was 'On the PhD thesis'
>>
>>Hi Gunnar
>>
>>My take on this is that in future, Schools of Art and Design,
>>especially in the UK, will explore more the idea that 'making a film'
>>might be undertaken as part of a research degree process, in the sense
>>that the 'making' may allow insights that could not be identified
>>through other kinds of 'observation'.
>>
>>In which case, future students will benefit from both the 'film-
>>related researcher' and the 'person good at making films' as one and
>>the same person. And they may look at this, and continue to be taught
>>by, film-makers from a non-academic environment.
>>
>>This raises another question for me.
>>
>>I recently posed an issue to immediate colleagues about the parallel
>>history of formal Art and Design education in the UK, and
>>traditionally University education. It went something like this:
>>
>>'I wonder how we might perceive Research in the UK had Art and Design
>>been an integral part of the University system as it has developed
>>since the 1840s.'
>>
>>What could Art and Design have contributed to the development of
>>Research protocols and debates as it has developed since?
>>
>>Rather than having to play catch-up, as often seems to be the case.
>>Even occasionally be ridiculed, by traditional University subjects,
>>for a lack of etiquette and sophistication.
>>
>>I know some of my colleagues here at Loughborough have explored what
>>we know about 'making', through 'making', as part of their PhD. I have
>>heard Chris Rust refer to the work of Owain Pedgley, in particular.
>>
>>But I do like to entertain myself with the idea that Art and Design
>>has just simply arrived at this particular party much later than
>>expected.
>>
>>And wearing jeans!
>>
>>Robert.
>>
>>
>>Robert Harland Lecturer Loughborough University School of Art
>>and Design +44 (0)1509 228980 [log in to unmask]
>>www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/ac/mainpages/Research/staffpages/harland/h
ar
>land.htm
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>>On 8 Dec 2009, at 23:00, Swanson, Gunnar wrote:
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>>> If a university wants to teach filmmaking, it may make sense to have
>>> students spend some of their time with film researchers but I hope
>>> it goes without saying that they need to learn to make films from
>>> people who are good at making films (as opposed to people who are
>>> good at conducting film-related research.) The attitude toward
>>> degrees and worthwhile activities of the School of Communication at
>>> ECU is not unlike the attitude of many universities as a whole.
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