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But is that what we are talking about here? "Oratio" and "benedictio" are slippery terms, and essentilly just mean prayer. Don't sacramentaries list the "mass set" prayers: Collect, Secret, Post-Communion?
John Briggs
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> Ccilia,
>
> Blessings, such as Pro iter agentibus, can, were, and are given
> outside Mass or within (at the end of) Mass.
>
> Votive Masses are whole liturgical Mass rites, allowed when no major
> feast intervenes. So, for intance, pilgrims could have a special Mass
> said for them on the occasion of their departure.
>
> GHB
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Cecilia Gaposchkin wrote:
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> > Hello all,
> >
> > Another question for generous list-members. I am looking for the
> > first time at some material in early sacramentaries (Gregorian and
> > Gelasian traditions, mostly). In the volumes there are both votive
> > masses (in one section; I am interested here in the votive masses
> > for travelers), and also "blessings" (Oratio, or Benedictio). Can
> > anyone illuminate how these would be used differently? My
> > understanding is that the benedictions would be given within the
> > context of the mass; and a votive mass has special texts that make
> > it "votive". Is the difference that blessing are integrated into
> > whatever mass is otherwise scheduled, and the votive mass is a
> > special - an "add on", if you will? Would such blessing ever be
> > said (they are "spoken", yes?) in a non-mass context? In a non-
> > church context?
> >
> > Thanks to thinkers.
> >
> > cecilia
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