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well, you know how essentially dumb all those folks were, back en ces temps
la, and weaving different sorts of cloth just to bury it simply never occurred
to them.
besides, every one knows that the Turin Artifact is, obviously, just a 13th c.
painting.
c
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Received: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:05:51 AM EST
From: Andrew Larsen <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Jesus Era Shroud Found in Judea
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> I was troubled by all of these points as well, especially the assumption
that all shrouds were woven the same way. That _is_ the argument here, isn't
it?
>
> Andrew E. Larsen
> On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Christopher Crockett wrote:
>
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> > culture
> >
> > From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >> I thought this might be of interest.
> >> Jeffrey Woolf
> >
> >> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1135491.html
> >
> >
> > "Israel experts said on Wednesday that a burial shroud known as the
> > Turin
> > shroud, assumed to be the type used to wrap the body of Jesus, did not
> > actually originate from Jesus-era Jerusalem.
> >
> > "The conclusion was based on excavation discoveries of a first-
> > century C.E.
> > shrouded man found in a tomb on the edge of the Old City of
> > Jerusalem...
> >
> > Along with the DNA of the shrouded man, this was the first time
> > that fragments
> > of a burial shroud have been found from the time of Jesus in
> > Jerusalem, which,
> > unlike the complex weave of the Turin Shroud, this shroud was made
> > up of a
> > simple two-way weave, as the textiles historian Dr. Orit Shamir was
> > able to
> > show."
> >
> >
> > i read the whole article, but failed to find the report about Dr.
> > Shamir's
> > astonishing finding that there was only a single type of cloth
> > which was used
> > for burial shrouds in this period.
> >
> > perhaps this remarkable discovery has been published elsewhere?
> >
> >
> > otOh, there's this bit, at the end of the article:
> >
> > "The co-infection of both leprosy and tuberculosis here and in 30
> > percent of
> > DNA remains in Israel and Europe from the ancient and modern period
> > also
> > provided evidence for the postulate that the medieval plague of
> > leprosy was
> > eliminated by an increased level of tuberculosis in Europe as the
> > area became
> > urbanized."
> >
> > i certainly wasn't aware that
> >
> > "...both leprosy and tuberculosis [is found]...in 30 percent of DNA
> > remains in
> > Israel and Europe from the ancient and modern period [sic]..."
> >
> > much less that tuberculosis could, somehow, "eliminate" leprosy:
> >
> > "...the medieval plague of leprosy was eliminated by an increased
> > level of
> > tuberculosis in Europe as the area became urbanized."
> >
> > c
> >
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