I understand that all parties involved seem to be
having a good time. It's nonetheless heartbreakingly trivial.
Mark
At 10:11 AM 10/4/2009, you wrote:
>You're right. My mistake. Here is what Kent actually wrote:
>
>'There is an important difference, though. Bernstein announces at the
>top that the work is *by Goldsmith,* and he seems to add his name
>beneath this in a playful sort of gesture, a kind of “afterthought” under
>the “legal” attribution: “Kenny Goldsmith’s The Weather.”
>
>It’s a “half-hearted” ironic tweak, so to speak.
>
>I’m not doing that. I’m cancelling Goldsmith’s name, pasting my own
>over his, in designation of the book’s real and higher conceptual Author
>ship. I’m claiming (sardonic though the affirmation is) the book as
>my “property.” Which is to say that categories of Authorship and cul
>tural property are bracketed by my book in ways they decidedly aren’t in
>Bernstein’s poignantly tentative and awkward move…'
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:21:59 +0100, David Bircumshaw
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey >When I told Kent this, Kent said that Charles’s appropriation
>of
> >Kenny’s ‘Weather’ was less original than his <
> >
> >But Kent doesn't believe in originality
> >
> >Desmond> sharing cyber-space in the global office<
> >
> >indeedy deed, and that's what it is, a virtualisation of the counting
>house,
> >where people seem to be competing about the height of their stools
>(pun
> >intended).
> >
> >Me, I'm off to piss in the water-fountain (not really, just an ill-manner
>of
> >speech)
> >
> >
> >
> >2009/10/4 Jeffrey Side <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >> Desmond, all I know is that Charles reproduced a work of Kenny’s
> >> called ‘Weather’ in 2006 and attached his own name to it, as Kent
>has
> >> done with Kenny’s ‘Day’. Charles contacted me to tell me this. I
>think
> >> he may have been surprised I had not mentioned it on my blog as I
>had
> >> with my mentioning Kent’s appropriation of ‘Day’.
> >>
> >> When I told Kent this, Kent said that Charles’s appropriation of
> >> Kenny’s ‘Weather’ was less original than his because it only went
>half-
> >> way, eventually acknowledging Kenny as the author. Kent said that
>his
> >> appropriation of ‘Day’ was a less cautious act in that he is claiming
>full
> >> authorship for ‘Day’.
> >>
> >> I told Charles what Kent’s response to his appropriation of 'Weather"
> >> was, but have not had a reply, yet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 04:33:34 +0100, Desmond Swords
> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I'm not being funny Jeff; but could you explain in a fifty to 100
>word
> >> >summary, what's actually going on between these legendary titans,
> >> for a
> >> >non-expert audience who aren't up to speed on the historical
> >> chronologies
> >> >between these two chaps, please?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >As an exercise in precis, can you please communicate by
>soundbite, as
> >> an
> >> >extended tweet, what the fuss is all about with Chuck and
>Kenners?
> >> >
> >> >I am going to start naming names in the virtual places outside of
>this
> >> >legendary venue, hosting some of the most amazing poetic
> >> intelligences alive
> >> >today: because being at the next level involves strategic drops of
> >> other
> >> >practitoners who will gain poetic kudos and gravity if I pretend we
>are
> >> very
> >> >important as colleagues sharing cyber-space in the global office
>where
> >> most
> >> >contemporaries have presence and various levels of celebrity and
>fame
> >> as
> >> >ditty-makers.
> >> >
> >> >I have already started tying you all into the critical frame that's
> >> showing
> >> >itself and forcing the revelation of those as famous as me and
>you, or
> >> chuck
> >> >and KJ.
> >> >
> >> >All of us here area bout as famopus as each other, and so we're
>all in
> >> with
> >> >a chance of making it big, if I win this years Poetry Society prize
>and
> >> talk
> >> >about my mates here, to the wider global media, in the interviews
> >> with the
> >> >playas in the rags and the ones doing radio and telly. Who will be
> >> asking
> >> >for my recommendations on who's exciting now.
> >> >
> >> >So, I wager, bet, in a good natured, positive and good for us all
>kinda
> >> way
> >> >- you to articulate for those ignorant of the connection(s) between
> >> Chuck
> >> >and Ken, coherently in a few paras - what's the scene?
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >David Bircumshaw
> >"A window./Big enough to hold screams/
> >You say are poems" - DMeltzer
> >Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >The Animal Subsides
>http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
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