Dear Klaus,
So you ARE saying that your definition of professional designers includes
groups such as engineering designers, medical informatics program designers,
learning and development program designers and similar sorts of people. All
of these self-declare themselves to be designers and get paid for doing that
kind of design - i.e there are job adverts asking for individuals in these
professions.
I hadn't thought of it before. A mass search for the term design on the last
decade or two of the world's job adverts would give a another dimension to
the measure of the number and scope of sub-fields of design (I just KNOW
Eduardo would also want me to do it in Portuguese!).
All the best,
Terry
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From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Klaus
Krippendorff
Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: On design - again?
terry,
i am saying you can't legislate or deduce from abstract definitions whether
someone is a designer or not. this is possible only when the world is fixed
and perfectly institutionalized. to me it is a question of professing to be
one and finding enough people who accept your profession, e.g. by entrusting
you with a design job.
i am also saying that the activity of inventing futures to live in,
including improving existing conditions, is a pretty general human activity.
we do it all the time in small and large ways, without necessarily calling
us designers when we do. the sentence i just wrote is an invention. people
who create new sentences more likely call each other writers, not designers.
klaus
-----Original Message-----
From: Terence Love [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:58 PM
To: Klaus Krippendorff; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: On design - again?
Hi Klaus,
I'm still not clear on what you are saying. Your post seems to contradict
some of your earlier comments.
Are you saying the scope of 'professional designers' in your email includes
engineering designers, software designers, mathematical configuration
designers and all those kinds of professional designers that call themselves
by the name 'designer' that are outside the fields covered by Art and Design
design schools?
Cheers,
Terry
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Klaus wrote:
members of a profession profess to belong to a community that is marked by
some - however loose but nevertheless satisfactory - agreement about what
they profess to. when you say you are a designer, and other professed
designers don't object to that, you are one.
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