Hello Ken and Johann,
Agreed- excellent posts and invigorating discussion...design thinking and doing are informed by several stakeholders and the designer works with all the people in ways that you both mention...
Designing is a highly personal and social activity. Not only are there several thinkers (thinking types) in the personal activity of the designer, but there are many thinkers as players in the 'bringing into being' of the design. I use the idea of transformation from the ideal-virtual to the real-physical, through the idea of aesthetic meaning- making that takes place between the designer and all of the players that you mention, Ken, at different stages of the design process....through the different thinking modes we engage in making sense of and producing the design.
Sorry to be quick in this response ( apologies for not clipping the post)....
I wanted to get a few thoughts in quickly.
Best
Tiiu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:31:19
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Who Designs?
Dear Johann,
Thanks for an excellent post. It is vital to recognize that design involves
several thinkers. Even when the professional designer works as a single
designer -- f.ex., Paul Rand -- that designer also works with clients,
contractors, manufacturers, end-users, and others.
Ken
Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS
Professor
Dean
Swinburne Design
Swinburne University of Technology
Melbourne, Australia
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:28:13 +0200, Johann van der Merwe
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
--snip--
they can also reason conceptually - i.e., "see" things that are not there, yet.
This is part of design thinking, when an ape can "fore-see" and build a
"tree" (thing to use for climbing) from boxes to reach a bunch of bananas
hanging from ther ceiling. Squid & octupus can "reason" their way out of
what seems at first enclosed places ... planning is "design" thinking ...
--snip--
When I argue that "design thinking is not done by the mind" I am referring
to a state of the world (the way we think it works) that correlates with
your view that, "For the rest of us, the profession of design generally
involves design as service for others. In this sense, design and design
thinking are distinctly human processes, often social, and always lodged in
systems of some kind."
Normally, when people speak about anything "done by the mind" they mean by a
single, individual mind, as if the planning and intricate concept for a
designed system could originate and develop within one single "mind" - that
is not so.
--snip--
Design is always a social act, and design thinking is done by multiple
"minds" interacting ... the thinking act is only possible, consciousness in
only possible because of some form of interaction, with "the other".
--snip--
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