Dear All
All health care provision is essentially political at heart. A very
good friend working in commissioning in the USA, commented 'beam me up
Scotty, there is no intellegent life here'
Norman
2009/8/24 Ted Harding <[log in to unmask]>:
> Thank you, Catherine, for a nicely balanced resumé of what was
> seething in my own head about this issue!
> Ted.
>
> On 24-Aug-09 14:44:24, Aicken, Catherine wrote:
>> With all due respect, I think we all have the right to comment on,
>> and correct, misinformation about the NHS - whether we are UK-based
>> (as I am) or not. I don't think it's problematic that the intended
>> audiences (congress + US people) of the petition are the same as
>> those at which this propaganda is directed, at present.
>>
>> Much of what has been said in the US media about the NHS has been
>> incorrect - for instance the Washington Post article another list
>> subscriber posted about NICE, which attacked the supposed existence
>> of a 'cap' of ~£20K on the amount of NHS resources that can be spent
>> on an individual in a year. This is just plain wrong; there is no
>> such limit to what can be spent on a person in a year.
>>
>> I'd welcome a discussion about what business and political interests
>> shape/determine the 'evidence' that's disseminated about health and
>> healthcare. How can we promote evidence based health without
>> addressing the issue of impartiality? It's tricky to leave politics
>> out of it - particularly when we're dealing with Evidence Based
>> Health at the population level / health services level. These issues
>> are of international relevance.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Catherine
>> ______
>>
>> From: Evidence based health (EBH)
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shaneyfelt,
>> Terry
>> Sent: 24 August 2009 15:12
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Combating misinformation about the NHS: do your bit for
>> the NHS
>> which we are all proud of in the UK, inspite of its many faults!
>>
>>
>>
>> As an American- please stay out of our business. What do you people
>> (UK) care about what we do with our health care system? Asking people
>> to sign a petition for some outside group to "inform" congress in the
>> US about the UK system. That doesn't sound biased in any way. Members
>> of your own parliament have urged that we don't change our system.
>>
>> This board is supposed to be about EMB not politics.
>> _____
>>
>> From: Evidence based health (EBH)
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ash Paul
>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:50 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Combating misinformation about the NHS: do your bit for
>> the NHS
>> which we are all proud of in the UK, inspite of its many faults!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> You might want to read this and sign this petition (it's the least we
>> can do
>> for the NHS!!!!). Please forward it to all your colleagues and to
>> people,
>> friends and family you know and trust in the UK:
>>
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>>
>> HiMovement for change led by Obama in the US is at risk of collapsing,
>> in
>> part because of the powerful medical insurance lobby and right-wing
>> propaganda machine spreading lies about the British health care system.
>> I
>> have just signed a petition urging the US Congress and American people
>> to
>> ignore the propaganda about the health system in Britain and to turn
>> the
>> debate away from fear and lies -- I thought that you would want to help
>> set
>> the record straight too! Click the link to sign the petition:
>> <http://www.avaaz.org/en/reform_health_care_uk/96.php?CLICK_TF_TRACK>
>> http://www.avaaz.org/en/reform_health_care_uk/96.php?CLICK_TF_TRACK
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ash
>>
>> Dr Ash Paul
>> Medical Director
>> NHS Bedfordshire
>>
>> 21 Kimbolton Road
>>
>> Bedford
>>
>> MK40 2AW
>>
>> Tel no: 01234795705
>>
>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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