I would say that 'design practice and research' does interact
'differently' with objects that are 'designed', but the difference is
actually less of an special relation to the object than a specific
relation to the object that is designed. By that I mean, everyone has
special relationships to objects that are defined in many cultural
ways, social scientists to social data for instance have a special
relationship. I think the specific relationship between designers and
objects relates much more to the artistic/authorial function in that I
think, and I may be wrong here, that designers try to leave their
'mark' on specific objects or sets of objects, which then reflect back
onto the designer. Which is much like the relationship between the
social scientist and the paper she/he authors. Those papers form a
corpus, which define a textual field which participates in a discourse
and reflect that discourse, etc. I think it is the 'seeking of the
specific relationship to objects' that designers might have, but
say.... a firefighter might not have, but i am sure that if we pushed
any example it would likely collapse.
On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Jurgen Faust wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> interesting position and thanks for the hint regarding actor network
> theory.
> I also agree with you that designers don't do anything different then
> others, but many are involved in designing, therefore they don't do
> anything
> different to objects. But your thoughts are very helpful within my
> research!
>
> Thanks,...
>
> Jurgen
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:15:16 -0400, jeremy hunsinger <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'd probably frame it slightly differently but yes. I'd frame it
>> that
>> objects participate in discourse, which I hold, which is also a
>> fundamental assumption of actor-network theory. As such everyone,
>> and all objects within a culture, participate in various discourses.
>> As to the objectified level, that would depend on the culture, but it
>> seems pretty true in capitalist cultures, which reify all processes
>> into objects in some way or another. So the idea from my position is
>> less that designers do anything necessarily different to objects in
>> terms of discourse, engineers, artists, social scientists, indeed i'd
>> say all modern persons use 'objects' to 'verify, change, or transform
>> existing solutions into better ones', indeed many animals other than
>> humans do the same sort of thing.
>> On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Jurgen Faust wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I would like to know whether there is anybody who would support a
>>> statement that
>>> designers also maintain discourses on an object level? That means
>>> that designers generate
>>> objects; solutions to verify, change or transform existing solutions
>>> in better once?
>>> I am currently exploring the idea that textual matters in design
>>> comprehend also design
>>> solutions as objects. I am using the current transformation of the
>>> existing i-phone we see,
>>> when we look at all the proposed changes in competitive products.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jurgen Faust
>>>
>>> Prof. DIGITAL MEDIA
>>> MHMK MUENCHEN
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