Dear Jurgen,
Just wondering can discourse be 'in' the objects? Foucault has it that
discourse as a system of thoughts can be shaped by the objects, but
discourse 'in' the objects seems to be a different thing. I'm aware that
this is often assumed. I'm trying to clarify in my head a fine distinction
between 'discourse wholly in the objects' and 'discourse undertaken by
humans using the usual modalities of word-based thought but influenced by
objects' - in the latter, the discourse is located normally rather than
being object-based. In doing this, I'm not presuming that thought,
conceptualisation and being depends on languaging.
I guess whether discourse 'in' objects is possible is easy to test one way
or the other. Discourse involves the facility of being able to conduct
reasoning and prediction of future. Assuming that the discourse is possible
'in' objects presumes that this reasoning and prediction of the future can
be done in ways that do not require our usual modality of discourse using
words.
I'm wondering how one might would make a practical test (usual verification
criteria) to prove that discourse not involving or dependent on words can
happen 'in' objects? Or has this already been done? If so, I'd welcome a
pointer to a paper on the practical experiments.
Best wishes,
Terry
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Subject: Re: actor-networks Re: Discourse on object level
Thanks to all of you,... I have a lot to think again,... also about ants and
billard balls...
I already started to read more about actor network theory, whether it is
useful or not. It will be anyway useful to expand my writing about design
discourse, also about discourse on object level!
Now my question expanded again:
...what terms could I use to differenciate the various discourse levels,...
discourse media...the media the discourse is conveyed in?
as I stated in the beginning, I am researching the discourse at the level of
objects which get produced to varify other productions...
but we can also see other discourse... in drawings,... images,...
photography therefore I am also looking for an adeqaut term, I also proposed
(discourse) conveyance matter...
because textual matter which was the original term or object matter...
seems all to be too fuzzy?
Jurgen
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