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Re: revival of ancient names

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David Horovitz <[log in to unmask]>

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The English Place-Name List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:36:21 -0000

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Bob -



Quite so. 



But digressing even further, what might the first element of Trubshaw

be? We have a place of that name in north Staffs, recorded from 1231 as

Trubbeshawe. 



David



-----Original Message-----

From: The English Place-Name List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf

Of Bob Trubshaw

Sent: 13 March 2009 13:43

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: revival of ancient names



The Harrow Farm near Six Hills, Leicestershire (a fairly typical 

post-Enclosure farmstead) seems to be a C19th 'revival' of the 

medieval field name 'Arrow Field' (in Wymeswold parish) which was 

situated to the immediate north of Harrow Farm. The upper reaches of 

the River Mantle (which has it source in or near the Arrow Field) 

were known until the C19th as the River Arrow.



Early OS maps show no minor toponyms to indicate that Harrow Farm 

took its name from anything other than the Arrow Field.



There is every possibility that the people who named Harrow Farm 

(situated in Burton on the Wolds parish very near the boundary with 

Wymeswold) might have known (or at the very least known of) the 

people who named Hrempi's Farm at Rempstone (mentioned in a recent 

post to this list) which is about 5 miles away (or vice versa 

depending on whether or not Harrow Farm was named before Hrempi's Farm).



Whether or not the name 'Arrow Field' itself derives from a 'hearg' 

is open to conjecture.  It is certainly the right place for a 'hearg 

' and the Goscote Hundred moot site was at Six Hills



As the moot site for Framland Hundred (the adjacent hundred to 

Goscote) was also at a probable hearg I am interested to know if 

other hundred/wapentake moot sites were at known or probable hearg 

sites.  It is especially curious that the name '(H)Arrow Hundred 

never appears to be used, so is such a construction  tautological 

(i.e. insufficiently 'distinctive')?



'Goscote' is itself an example of a revival as Goscote Hundred split 

into East and West Goscote Hundreds in A-S- times.  'East Goscote' 

was adopted as the name of a large 1970s housing estate on the 

northern edge of Syston (although there was never previously any 

settlement called 'Goscote').  Intriguingly, 'East Goscote' is an 

example of a 'cardinal' toponym which makes no sense, as the name 

does *not* denote it being east of anywhere else ;-)



So many digressions...



Bob







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