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Bob - Quite so. But digressing even further, what might the first element of Trubshaw be? We have a place of that name in north Staffs, recorded from 1231 as Trubbeshawe. David -----Original Message----- From: The English Place-Name List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Trubshaw Sent: 13 March 2009 13:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: revival of ancient names The Harrow Farm near Six Hills, Leicestershire (a fairly typical post-Enclosure farmstead) seems to be a C19th 'revival' of the medieval field name 'Arrow Field' (in Wymeswold parish) which was situated to the immediate north of Harrow Farm. The upper reaches of the River Mantle (which has it source in or near the Arrow Field) were known until the C19th as the River Arrow. Early OS maps show no minor toponyms to indicate that Harrow Farm took its name from anything other than the Arrow Field. There is every possibility that the people who named Harrow Farm (situated in Burton on the Wolds parish very near the boundary with Wymeswold) might have known (or at the very least known of) the people who named Hrempi's Farm at Rempstone (mentioned in a recent post to this list) which is about 5 miles away (or vice versa depending on whether or not Harrow Farm was named before Hrempi's Farm). Whether or not the name 'Arrow Field' itself derives from a 'hearg' is open to conjecture. It is certainly the right place for a 'hearg ' and the Goscote Hundred moot site was at Six Hills As the moot site for Framland Hundred (the adjacent hundred to Goscote) was also at a probable hearg I am interested to know if other hundred/wapentake moot sites were at known or probable hearg sites. It is especially curious that the name '(H)Arrow Hundred never appears to be used, so is such a construction tautological (i.e. insufficiently 'distinctive')? 'Goscote' is itself an example of a revival as Goscote Hundred split into East and West Goscote Hundreds in A-S- times. 'East Goscote' was adopted as the name of a large 1970s housing estate on the northern edge of Syston (although there was never previously any settlement called 'Goscote'). Intriguingly, 'East Goscote' is an example of a 'cardinal' toponym which makes no sense, as the name does *not* denote it being east of anywhere else ;-) So many digressions... Bob ****************************************************************************************************************************************** This email is from Towergate Partnership Limited or one of its Subsidiary Companies. Its contents are confidential to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Towergate for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. The following companies are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority: Towergate Underwriting Group Ltd, Towergate London Market Ltd, Folgate Insurance Company Ltd, Fusion Insurance Services Ltd and GHBC Limited. *******************************************************************************************************************************************