Sally, my dear, neither am I university educated.
I can be a gentleman on occasions though!
2008/11/23 Sally Evans <[log in to unmask]>:
> well you know they werent university educated gentlemen in our sense
> whatever
> Sally Evans
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw"
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> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: A fitt
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>
>> One of the interesting things about Beowulf is that nobody seems to
>> have known about it to the early seventeenth century: the manuscript
>> seems to date from at least the 11th century but all that proves is
>> that the material it was written on dates from then. The Gawayne poem
>> , by contrast, does seem to have been in a vague awareness. The
>> earliest conjectured date for the ms's existence is its supposed
>> existence in 1563, Beowulf seems to have come into the world following
>> Spenser's cod antiquarianism, along the desire to provide antiquity
>> for the new English then British state.
>>
>> We know Shakespeare's history plays are in a certain sense Tudor
>> propaganda, but, I at least, pace Auden on Claudel, can pardon him for
>> writing well, but Beowulf, it's abou as good as Colin Clot's Come Home
>> Again.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> 2008/11/23 Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>> <<
>>> keep meaning to get a version that has the original alongside the
>>> transcription/interpretation.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Tina,
>>>
>>> You might want to consider:
>>>
>>> Beowulf: A Glossed Text
>>> By Michael Alexander
>>> Published by Penguin Classics, 1995
>>> ISBN 0140433775, 9780140433777
>>> 237 pages
>>>
>>> It's not quite a parallel text, but one *heavily glossed on the right
>>> hand
>>> facing page.
>>>
>>> You can get an idea of what it's like from google books, which allows you
>>> to
>>> read as far as about line 20.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KFlpxcQftwoC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0
>>>
>>> There are, I think, several versions of the original text on the Web as
>>> well
>>> as various out-of-copyright translations.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
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>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>
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David Bircumshaw
Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
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