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Patristic ideas on this point are given in brief in J. Y.B. Hood, Aq
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> Dear Jeffrey,
>
> I know little of the actual use of the arguments in the debates, but as to
> supersession, that is the New Israel replacing Old Israel had been stock
> argument, and the obvious symbol for the "cessatio legalium" was the
> destruction of the Temple. The Temple, however was understood to live on
> in a spiritual sense, since the Holy of Holies was interpreted since early
> Christology as the body of Christ (see eg. Congar, Y., The mystery of the
> Temple (Le mystere du Temple), tr. R.F.Trevett), transforming the OT
> Temple into a spiritual Temple, which was again understood as the Church.
> For later stock Latin arguments for the allegorical interpretations (in
> addition to those mentioned by Frans) see Bede, De tabernaculo et vasis
> eius, De templo Salamonis (both in PL 91, and I think there is now an
> English translation of these works, too). In the 12th c. one would wish to
> look at the Victorines, like Richard of SV, Allegoriae Tabernaculi
> Foederis, PL 196. These allegories were understood as the 'real' or
> 'prophetic' meaning of the OT descriptions.
>
> One little point : isn't supersession the right term, not supercessio
> (supersedere > sessio, replace, not cessio - expiry (cessio diei), or
> supercedere, cross, exceed ) ?
>
> Best,
> George
>
> Gyorgy Gereby
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>>>> "George R. Hoelzeman" <[log in to unmask]> 10/27/08 2:49 AM >>>
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> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:54:33 -0400, Frans van Liere wrote:
>
>>The argument there is clearly that it was seen as God's punishment for
>> the Jews' crucifixion of Jesus. Jennifer Harris, of Toronto, who is
>> preparing a book on
> the Temple, might have more on this.
>
>
>
> I seem to recall reading somewhere an arguement that the destruction of
> the Temple was an act of Divine supercession more than punishment, but
> don't
> remember where I came across that arguement. Equally, I detect some
> recollection of someone arguing that the supercession arguement is already
> present (in
> nascient form) in some of the late NT writings.
>
> Equally, equally, I don't remember where I came across any of this and
> could likely be wildly in error.
>
> George the Less
>
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