Thanks Phil.
Paul
Paul Walk
On 5 Sep 2008, at 17:30, Phil Cross <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> We have a number of files from the original rdn domain on the intute
> server with redirects set up. I'll see about putting this one up too.
> Cheers,
> Phil
>
> Paul Walk wrote:
>> These files, along with the entire RDN site, were transferred from
>> UKOLN to Intute some time ago. However, being the preservation-
>> aware organisation that we are, I can supply the necessary files
>> from our archives.
>>
>> I've attached a zip containing the schema document (and, I hope,
>> its dependencies) to this message for convenience, but clearly it
>> would be good if Intute could restore the files under the
>> 'rdn.ac.uk' domain.
>>
>> I'm sure Intute staff monitor this list - if UKOLN can help supply
>> missing files then please do not hesitate to contact me.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 Sep 2008, at 16:25, Phil Barker wrote:
>>
>>> Fair enough, Andy. I thought you might have a copy secreted about
>>> your person :-)
>>>
>>> I'll have a dig around. I thought I took a copy once, but can't
>>> find it.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> Andy Powell wrote:
>>>> The schema supposedly at http://www.rdn.ac.uk/oai/lom/lom.xsd you
>>>> mean?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I suspect that was lost in the transition from RDN
>>>> to
>>>> Intute (or sometime soon afterwards). I don't even know where
>>>> any of
>>>> that stuff is hosted these days.
>>>>
>>>> I can't help :-(
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>> --
>>>> Head of Development, Eduserv Foundation
>>>> http://www.eduserv.org.uk/foundation/
>>>> http://efoundations.typepad.com/
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> +44 (0)1225 474319
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Repositories discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Phil Barker
>>>>> Sent: 05 September 2008 16:05
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Metadata creation: XML files from Word using XSD
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ben,
>>>>> Yes, the IEEE LOM XML binding standard is perhaps not what you
>>>>> would expect in this respect. It doesn't so much give you an XML
>>>>> schema as define how you can create one. See
>>>>> http://zope.cetis.ac.uk/content2/20050609101645 for something of
>>>>> an explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want an xsd that is more palatable to most apps, and (I
>>>>> think) compliant with the final standard, Andy Powell might be
>>>>> able provide one based on the work described at http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue39/powell/
>>>>> http://www.intute.ac.uk/publications/rdn-ltsn/ap/
>>>>>
>>>>> [Andy, the schema location URL is giving a 404 error, and, err,
>>>>> I can't find a copy]
>>>>>
>>>>> It might be worth raising this on the [log in to unmask]
>>>>> list. There might be some people on that list that aren't here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, sounds like an interesting idea you've got there. Hope
>>>>> this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben Scoble wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having a headache with Microsoft Word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can use 'Template and Add-ins' to apply an Metadata schema
>>>>>> to a Word document (using an XSD schema file).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This allows you to highlight the Word document and mark it up
>>>>>> with Metadata tags (related to the schema used). You can then
>>>>> save the doc
>>>>>> as an XML file (option > save data only) - this creates a
>>>>> XML data file of the Word document.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to use this XML file as the Metadata source for several
>>>>>> documents I load up to a repository - this does work (tested
>>>>>> and successful) - but the file I used was handwritten. I would
>>>>> like it to be generated from Word.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can have already created an XSD file and applied it to a
>>>>> Word doc -
>>>>>> but it was my own schema - all good (technically) but I
>>>>> would like to
>>>>>> use a standard schema, for example the LOM, IMS or Dublin Core
>>>>>> - please see XSD files in:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://standards.ieee.org/reading/ieee/downloads/LOM/lomv1.0/xsd/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, when I try to create an XSD file that references the
>>>>>> LOM - Word cannot / will not validate the XSD and allow me to
>>>>>> use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simply trying to upload an XSD file doesn't work either -
>>>>> as 'apparently'
>>>>>
>>>>>> there are some issues associated with it that does not let Word
>>>>>> validate it
>>>>>> - see:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://standards.ieee.org/reading/ieee/downloads/LOM/lomv1.0/xsd/lom.x
>>>>>
>>>>>> sd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know how I can create an LOM based XSD file
>>>>> that Word will
>>>>>> let me use to mark-up a document?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. - Why Word? Well it is a low-cost solution - and being in
>>>>>> Word means that other colleagues could use a template doc and
>>>>> the XSD file
>>>>>> to create XML - without too much hassle or technical training.
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Phil Barker Learning Technology Adviser
>>>>> ICBL, School of Mathematical and Computer Sciences
>>>>> Mountbatten Building, Heriot-Watt University,
>>>>> Edinburgh, EH14 4AS
>>>>> Tel: 0131 451 3278 Fax: 0131 451 3327
>>>>> Web: http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/~philb/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity registered under
>>>>> charity number SC000278.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Phil Barker Learning Technology Adviser
>>> ICBL, School of Mathematical and Computer Sciences
>>> Mountbatten Building, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh,
>>> EH14 4AS
>>> Tel: 0131 451 3278 Fax: 0131 451 3327
>>> Web: http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/~philb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity
>>> registered under charity number SC000278.
>>
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>> Paul Walk
>> Technical Manager
>> UKOLN (University of Bath)
>> http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/
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