Dear Michael and other readers,

It is the job of a scientist and academic to cast his or her genuine
curiosity on anything and everything.
On that note, I'd like to point out that there is quite a lot of research
especially on NLP as well as EMDR. 

Both models emerged without any academic-style research so, yes, they
haven't followed "protocol".

On the other hand, as academics tackle the same subjects, there is so far
quite some overlap.

EMDR - has been shown to be effective (as effective or more than other
exposure therapies), at least for particular subject groups. There is
controversy over the eye-movement component; the current research suggests
that they make exposure to traumatic memories tolerable so that therapy can
continue. The reason is unknown though there are a few theories out there
and we also know it's not a distraction effect.

NLP - various research items support ideas that are presented in NLP. E.g.
rapport (mirror neurons, phi brainwaves etc), embodiment of experience and
so on.

My research is with regards to the eye-movement model of NLP. One of the
unsubstantiated parts of NLP. 
It is quite clear from past research that eye-movements are correlated to
mental processes, in some, unknown so far, way. If the mapping that NLP
suggests has any "truth" in it, it is to be found. 

I can provide references for anyone interested on any of the above. Also, I
made a presentation at the First International NLP Research Conference at
the University of Surrey, UK entitled " A CRITICAL REVIEW OF PAST RESEARCH
INTO THE NEURO-LINGUISTIC PROGRAMMING EYE-ACCESSING CUES MODEL". Abstract
attached below and slides with full references are available for interested
parties.

Georgios Diamantopoulos
Doctoral Researcher
University of Birmingham, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael MacAskill [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 27 July 2008 22:19
Subject: Re: Benefit of eyetracking to speech, muscle activity and brain
waves.

Dear All,

I was under the impression that this was a list for discussions  
relevant to the science of eye movement control. I am therefore  
somewhat saddened when a genuine  question is responded to with two  
pointers to what could (at best) be described as pseudo-science (eye  
movement desensitisation & reprogramming, and neurolinguistic  
programming). Will iridology be next?

Peter, it would be useful to know more about what the specific goals  
of the system would be. Many of these measures (to which you could add  
galvanic skin response and heart rate if you are interested in  
emotion) are remarkably non-specific and their suitability can only  
really be assessed in relation to the specific purpose to which they  
are to be applied.

Regards,

Michael MacAskill



> In addition to coherence of information you may also wish to consider
> understanding disjuction between EM and those other modes.  Eg the  
> work
> on EMDR and cognitive re-integration in cases of PTSD.
>
> http://www.emdr.com/

> Hi Peter,
> it might b of interest to check the kiterature on neurolinguistic
> programming (NLP). THe NLP proponents maintain that they can interpret
> some though content from eze gaze.
>
>> Hello dear eyetracking community,
>>
>> I am working in the ET area since two years now as a computer
>> scientist in the field of HCI. I lately was asked what eyetracking
>> could add for additonal information if a system collaborating with
>> the human would measure his/her speech, muscle activity, and brain
>> waves. Since I have only little knowledge especially concerning  
>> muscle
>> activity and brain waves I had to admit that I am only guessing that
>> the three measures mentioned "only" give hints concerning the
>> emotional state of the human and that eyetracking of course could
>> additionally give the clue where the human is looking, so where is
>> his/her attention.
>> I think that is the main point. But I am not sure to which extent the
>> brain data already could provide this too. - Does anybody know the
>> state of the art concerning this, how good this works and how great
>> the effort is? Additionally of course eyetracking could contribute
>> to the emotional state measurement using blink rate and pupillometric
>> data and via the attention also on intention.
>>
>> That are my thoughts so far. I would be very pleased if someone could
>> help me here to continue this interesting discussion, e.g. whether I
>> missed some important points.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> kind regards,
>>
>> Peter.


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