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Dear Michael and other readers, It is the job of a scientist and academic to cast his or her genuine curiosity on anything and everything. On that note, I'd like to point out that there is quite a lot of research especially on NLP as well as EMDR. Both models emerged without any academic-style research so, yes, they haven't followed "protocol". On the other hand, as academics tackle the same subjects, there is so far quite some overlap. EMDR - has been shown to be effective (as effective or more than other exposure therapies), at least for particular subject groups. There is controversy over the eye-movement component; the current research suggests that they make exposure to traumatic memories tolerable so that therapy can continue. The reason is unknown though there are a few theories out there and we also know it's not a distraction effect. NLP - various research items support ideas that are presented in NLP. E.g. rapport (mirror neurons, phi brainwaves etc), embodiment of experience and so on. My research is with regards to the eye-movement model of NLP. One of the unsubstantiated parts of NLP. It is quite clear from past research that eye-movements are correlated to mental processes, in some, unknown so far, way. If the mapping that NLP suggests has any "truth" in it, it is to be found. I can provide references for anyone interested on any of the above. Also, I made a presentation at the First International NLP Research Conference at the University of Surrey, UK entitled " A CRITICAL REVIEW OF PAST RESEARCH INTO THE NEURO-LINGUISTIC PROGRAMMING EYE-ACCESSING CUES MODEL". Abstract attached below and slides with full references are available for interested parties. Georgios Diamantopoulos Doctoral Researcher University of Birmingham, UK -----Original Message----- From: Michael MacAskill [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 27 July 2008 22:19 Subject: Re: Benefit of eyetracking to speech, muscle activity and brain waves. Dear All, I was under the impression that this was a list for discussions relevant to the science of eye movement control. I am therefore somewhat saddened when a genuine question is responded to with two pointers to what could (at best) be described as pseudo-science (eye movement desensitisation & reprogramming, and neurolinguistic programming). Will iridology be next? Peter, it would be useful to know more about what the specific goals of the system would be. Many of these measures (to which you could add galvanic skin response and heart rate if you are interested in emotion) are remarkably non-specific and their suitability can only really be assessed in relation to the specific purpose to which they are to be applied. Regards, Michael MacAskill > In addition to coherence of information you may also wish to consider > understanding disjuction between EM and those other modes. Eg the > work > on EMDR and cognitive re-integration in cases of PTSD. > > http://www.emdr.com/ > Hi Peter, > it might b of interest to check the kiterature on neurolinguistic > programming (NLP). THe NLP proponents maintain that they can interpret > some though content from eze gaze. > >> Hello dear eyetracking community, >> >> I am working in the ET area since two years now as a computer >> scientist in the field of HCI. I lately was asked what eyetracking >> could add for additonal information if a system collaborating with >> the human would measure his/her speech, muscle activity, and brain >> waves. Since I have only little knowledge especially concerning >> muscle >> activity and brain waves I had to admit that I am only guessing that >> the three measures mentioned "only" give hints concerning the >> emotional state of the human and that eyetracking of course could >> additionally give the clue where the human is looking, so where is >> his/her attention. >> I think that is the main point. But I am not sure to which extent the >> brain data already could provide this too. - Does anybody know the >> state of the art concerning this, how good this works and how great >> the effort is? Additionally of course eyetracking could contribute >> to the emotional state measurement using blink rate and pupillometric >> data and via the attention also on intention. >> >> That are my thoughts so far. I would be very pleased if someone could >> help me here to continue this interesting discussion, e.g. whether I >> missed some important points. >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> kind regards, >> >> Peter. -- Michael R. MacAskill, PhD [log in to unmask] Research Fellow Van der Veer Institute for Parkinson's & Brain Research University of Otago, Christchurch 66 Stewart St Christchurch Ph: +64 3 3786 072 NEW ZEALAND Fax: +64 3 3786 080 -- EYE-MOVEMENT mailing list ([log in to unmask]) N.B. Replies are sent to the list, not the sender To unsubscribe, etc. see http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/files/eye-movement/introduction.html Other queries to list owner at [log in to unmask] -- EYE-MOVEMENT mailing list ([log in to unmask]) N.B. Replies are sent to the list, not the sender To unsubscribe, etc. see http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/files/eye-movement/introduction.html Other queries to list owner at [log in to unmask]