just wanted to mention that, to me,
"to get off one's arse" (or rear, ass, butt, &c) is colloquial/slang usage
spoken & written every day by millions, more often than not in a playfully
rude or 'jabbing' way to communicate urgency without communicating an
insult. for an english-speaker to consider the phrase, especially in the
above context, high insulting is unrealistic in my view.
I'll also sidestep technical hangups some might have with the anthology
getting published, since at a skim I don't find them to deal substantially
with matters of ethics. I'm fine with the anthology getting published in any
shape or form that doesn't ask me for my credit card PIN number. this coming
from someone, albeit, who is not yet a vouched participant in the anthology.
KS
2008/8/3 Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]>
> The last thing I want is to have an argument with you.
>
> If we have to talk of when you were a co-manager, your presence was very
> mild and you always entered discussion to try to reconcile rather than
> breaking apart. I have been on this list long enough to remember
> everything.
> And once again I praise your attitude in trying to find a compromise.
>
> I do not find it humorous, at all, as a matter of fact. But highly
> insulting
> as much as bad language freely and cheaply used.
> My best wishes,
>
> Anny
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Randolph Healy <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Anny,
> >
> > I find the phrase "You others get off your arses!" humourous, not
> > insulting.
> >
> > Are you under the impression that those you list as "fired from the list"
> > were all fired by Alison? As it happens, some left of their own accord,
> some
> > were unsubscribed by me, a decision I had very mixed feelings about at
> the
> > time, and one which I still am very unhappy about.
> >
> > I think it would be better to avoid such loaded terms as "despotic",
> which
> > I do find insulting. I believe it to be highly inaccurate and
> inappropriate.
> > I also believe your use of the phrase "arbritrarily taken" to be
> > indefensible. I consider it to be unjust to discuss someone in these
> terms
> > when they have been denied the right of reply.
> >
> > best
> >
> >
> > Randolph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anny Ballardini wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Randolph for your kind words for our management. Croggon left
> >> the
> >> list insulting several members some time ago. If you wish you can dig
> into
> >> the past messages. I also find the use of:
> >>
> >> "You others get off your arses!"
> >>
> >> quite insulting again.
> >> We have been working for the list a ton and more, if you so would like
> to
> >> know. And our interventions have been minimal not to invade with our
> >> personal preferences.
> >> I would like to remind again the despotic methods that previously
> reigned
> >> under Croggon's rule, fired from the list:
> >>
> >> David Bircumshaw
> >> Rebecca Seiferle
> >> Henry Gould
> >> Gabriel Gudding
> >> Kent Johnson
> >> Marcus Bales
> >> Erminia Passannanti
> >> ...
> >>
> >> decisions always arbitrarily taken.
> >> With Joseph we had something to say about the book, keep tuned,
> >> and best wishes,
> >>
> >> Anny Ballardini
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Randolph Healy
> >> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Anny Ballardini
> http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/
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> http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html
> I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing
> star!
>
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