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Patrick,
The last I heard, Cordelia Warr was teaching at a (or the?) university in Belfast. That may
help.
Cheers,
Jim Bugslag
On 16 Jul 2008 at 18:53, Patrick Hayes wrote:
> It so happens I am to be interviewed on stigmatics next week and it
> may be advantageous to read Warr's paper. Does someone have an email
> address for her?
>
> Patrick Hayes, Ph.D.
> Department of Theology and Religious Studies
> St. John's University
>
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> culture on behalf of Luongo, F. Thomas Sent: Wed 7/16/2008 4:40 PM To:
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> each other's calendars and sanctorales
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> Cordelia Warr gave an interesting paper on Dominican promotion of
> stigmatist saints, at the "Saints between Manuscript and Print"
> conference at the American Academy in Rome in June.
>
> As I recall, she mentioned that "stigmata" was often used to describe
> a variety of physical experiences, not just the receiving of the
> wounds of Christ in the manner of Francis.
>
> Tom Luongo
>
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> culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom
> Izbicki Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:45 AM To:
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> each other's calendars and sanctorales
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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> Also Franciscans resented any claim Catherine of Siena received
> stigmata. Carolyn Muessig gave a very interesting paper on this at
> the meeting of the Renaissance Society of America this past spring.
> Tom Izbicki
>
> John Shinners wrote:
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> > culture
> >
> > There could be bad blood between the two orders. Vauchez also wrote
> about Dominican resentment of Franciscan claims of Francis'
> stigamata. They thought this was making him too much like Christ,
> and some images of Francis bearing the stigmata were defaced. See
> André Vauchez, "Les stigmates de saint François et leurs
> détracteurs dans les derniers siècles du moyen âge," Mélanges
> d'archaeologie et d'histoire, 1968, 596-625. Translated by Edward
> Hagman as "The Stigmata of St. Francis and Its Medieval Detractors,"
> Greyfriars Review 13 (1999). > > Best, > John > >
> ------------------------------------------ > John Shinners >
> Professor of Humanistic Studies > Saint Mary's College > Notre Dame,
> Indiana 46556 > Phone: 574-284-4494 or 574-284-4501 >
> www.saintmarys.edu/~hust > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:
> Catherine.Lawless <[log in to unmask]> > To:
> [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:54:42
> -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [M-R] OPs and OMs in each other's
> calendars and > sanctorales > > medieval-religion: Scholarly
> discussions of medieval religion and > culture > > Dear Cecilia >
> André Vauchez wrote an essay on Jacopo da Voragine and whether
> Saints Dominic, Peter Martyr, Francis and Elizabeth of Hungary
> belonged to the original corpus of the Legenda Aurea or not, and
> therein also wrote a little about Jacopo's sermons on Francis. The
> essay is 'Jacopo da Voragine e i santi del XIII secolo' in Ordini
> mendicanti e società italiana XIII-XV secolo (Milan: Mondadori,
> 1990), pp.92-115. The essay was originally published in Jacopo da
> Voragine. Atti del I Convegno di studi indetto dal Centro studi
> Jacopo da Voragine (Varazze, 13-14 aprile 1985), ed. G. Farris and
> T.B. Delfino (Varazze, 1987), pp.53-77. > On p.113, n., of the
> Mondadori edition, Vauchez cites Jacopo's sermons on St. Francis, as
> sermones I and II, in R. Clutius, Jacobi de Voragine sermones aurei,
> vol.II, Mayence 1616. > > Apologies if I have sent this twice - I
> wrote it out and it disappeared from my computer screen when I hit
> send, yet didn't appear to send, I don't know where it went! > best >
> C. > > Dr. Catherine Lawless > Course Director, MA in the History of
> Art and Architecture Department > of History University of Limerick
> Limerick > Tel: + 353-61-202636 > Email: [log in to unmask] > >
> > > -----Original Message----- > From: medieval-religion - Scholarly
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> Subject: Re: [M-R] OPs and OMs in each other's calendars and >
> sanctorales > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval
> religion and > culture > > Cecilia, > One possible place to look is
> in the sermon literature. Did > Dominicans preserve sermons about
> Francis etc.? And vice versa. > Francis himself was such an
> international saint, I cannot imagine him > being skipped entirely by
> Dominicans. Others might be given less > attention. You might >
> consult: > > Title: Repertorium der lateinischen Sermones des
> Mittelalters für die > Zeit von 1350 bis 1500 [electronic resource]
> / nach den Vorarbeiten > von J.B. Schneyer ; herausgegeben von L.
> Hödl und W. Knoch. > Publication info: Münster : Aschendorff,
> c2001. > Physical descrip: 1 CD-ROM ; 4 3/4 in. + 1 guide ([12]
> p. ; 12 cm.) > > > *Repertorium der lateinischen Sermones des
> Mittelalters für die Zeit > von 1150-1350 /* > > Johannes Baptist
> *Schneyer* > > 1969-1990 > *Latin* Book Book 11 v. ; 24 cm. >
> Münster Westfalen : Aschendorffsche Verlagsbuchhandlung, > > Also,
> the following: > > > *Quaestiones evangeliorum tam de tempore quam de
> sanctis* > > Juan de *Torquemada* > > 1477 > *Latin* Book Book :
> Microform Microform 414 p. fol. > Rome, Johann Schurener, > > Did
> Torquemada provide for material on Franciscans? I never looked. > >
> I do know that Leonardo Dati OP preached on Francis at the Council of
> > Constance. I never have been sure how he got that assignment.
> That > is covered with other sermons by author in: > > i >
> *Scriptores Ordinis Praedicatorum Medii Aevi /* > > Thomas
> *Kaeppeli*; Emilio *Panella* > > 1970-1993 > *Latin* Book Book 4 v.
> ; 25 cm. > Romae : Ad S. Sabinae, > > Tom Izbick > > > > cecilia
> gaposchkin wrote: > >> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of
> medieval religion and >> culture Doctissimi, >> >> Can any one point
> me to relevant bibliography on the question of how >> Franciscans and
> Dominicans treated each other's saints in their >> sanctorales and
> calendars, and saintly commemorations in general. I >> presume this
> is something that someone has thought about somewhere, >> but I don't
> know where to look. So, for instance, did Franciscan do >> more than
> simply insert Aquinas into their calendar - did they use >> proper
> liturgical offices, did they preach proper sermons, and so >> forth.
> And did the Dominicans celebrate, for instance, Louis of >> Toulouse,
> or Anthony of Padua, and how? >> >> Any info and/or bibliography
> appreciated. >> >> thanks as always, for every one's engagements. I
> love and benefit >> constantly from the generosity of the list, >> >>
> cecilia >> >>
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