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Dear IBRU Recipients,
Please replace my e-mail of 24 July 2008 by its this update which now
includes:
* Malaysia/Singapore Will Wait for Technical Committee of 24 July
2008 with Map! [this wise decision corresponds with what Professor Prescott
anticipated below] at:
http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Frontpage/2301681/Article/index_html
reprinted without Map at:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest+News/S-E+Asia/STIStory_260859.html [via:
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Pedra_Branca &
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=ICJ ]
* Romania v. Ukraine UNCLOS 121(3) Rock Case Par Excellence [at:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3&code=ru&case=132&k=95 &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpents_Island ] and the latest Malcolm Shaw's
Leading Edition [at:
http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521899291 ] -
given frequency of its use, the hard-cover copy is highly recommended.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael White [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 01:00
To: Kwiatkowska, Barbara
Subject: RE: Is Pedra Branca a Rock or an Island? And Dokdo/Takeshima?
Dear Barbara,
Thank you for including me in this email as I find this information you
send out very helpful and informative. All the best.
Regards,
Michael
Dr Michael White QC,
Adjunct Professor,
(Centre for Marine Studies and also of the Marine & Shipping Law Unit);
University of Queensland.
Ph: (0)7 3365 2120; Email: [log in to unmask]
-----Original Message-----
From: Professor Victor Prescott [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 23:47
To: Kwiatkowska, Barbara
Subject: Re: [INT-BOUNDARIES] Is Pedra Branca a Rock or an Island? And
Dokdo/Takeshima?
Dear Barbara,
You might as well ask "How long is a piece of string"?
It is predictable that Singapore will claim it is an island. Malaysia
will argue that it is a rock. The two sides will probably not agree to
another case before the Court. The legal decision is now past and the two
sides will engage in hard fought political negotiations.
Because Malaysia was awarded Middle Rocks and is clearly the
possessor of South Ledge (Kerang Selatin), it will be impossible for
Singapore to claim any significant territorial waters south of Pedra
Branca.
So Singapore's claim to 12 nm territorial seas and an EEZ 200 nm wide
must be to the north of Pedra Branca. I do not fancy Singapore's
chances in arguing that it is entitled to equidistant boundaries
with Malaysia ( or Indonesia) north of Pedra Branca. Pedra Branca is
a very small feature and it is faced by a mainland coast of Malaysia
with offshore islands and rock and low-tide elevations.
I hope you are well. I admire your energy in finding out lots of
comments in newspapers.
Sincerely,
Victor
Professor Victor Prescott [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Van Dyke [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 22:58
To: Kwiatkowska, Barbara
Subject: Re: Is Pedra Branca a Rock or an Island? And Dokdo/Takeshima?
Thanks so much, Barbara, for these interesting references! Best wishes, Jon
[mailto:[log in to unmask] - **Prominent international legal expert on
UNCLOS 121(3) Rocks**]
-----Original Message-----
From: hamzah ishak [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 16:12
To: Kwiatkowska, Barbara
Subject: Re: [INT-BOUNDARIES] Is Pedra Branca a Rock or an Island? And
Dokdo/Takeshima?
Thanks for the information. I think it's really interesting to note that
both parties Malaysia and Singapore will start to argue on the status of
Pedra Branca.
Hamzah
-----Original Message-----
From: Kwiatkowska, Barbara
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 15:04
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Cc: Elihu Lauterpacht CBE QC (E-mail)
Subject: Is Pedra Branca a Rock or an Island? And Dokdo/Takeshima?
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compliments:
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Subject: RE: Is Pedra Branca a Rock or an Island? And Dokdo/Takeshima?
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=&S=&P=871 via: July 2008 at:
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in the end of websites which made entering these websites - through this new
IBRU access - impossible, were now typed with space which ensures proper
entering of these websites]:
Romania v. Ukraine at:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3&code=ru&case=132&k=95 and
Oral Hearings on 2-19 September 2008 at:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/132/14653.pdf, ICJ President Rosalyn
Higgins [at: http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=1 &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalyn_Higgins via:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:International_Court_of_Justice_judges
& http://www.asil.org/aboutasil/awardarchives.html#HudsonAwards &
http://fora.tv/2007/10/03/International_Court_of_Justice_Road_Ahead &
http://www.biicl.org/news/view/-/id/82/ &
http://www.britac.ac.uk/news/release.asp?NewsID=264] via: 2004 at:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3 &
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=ICJ involving Beautiful Potential
UNCLOS 121(3) Rock - Serpents/Zmiyinyy Island (Russia, now Ukraine) at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpents_Island
Ukraine Drilling Activities Continue in the Disputed Area of 24 June
2008 at:
http://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/news/boundary_news/?itemno=6663&rehref=%2Fibru%2Fn
ews%2F&resubj=Boundary+news%20Headlines [via:
http://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/news/ ] & http://www.odessadarlings.com/
The best International Law textbook of our time! was just published by
Malcolm N. Shaw QC (6th Edition 2008) at:
http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521899291 &
http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521728140 [
mailto:[log in to unmask] ] - given frequency of its use, the hard-cover
copy is highly recommended.
Regarding Hamzah Ishak's question of 19 June 2008 whether Pedra Branca/Pulau
Batu Puteh is a Rock under UNCLOS 121(3) or an Island under UNCLOS
121(1)-(2), please see the current as hottest as fascinating debates:
With respect to
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3&code=masi&case=130&k=2b
Malaysia/Singapore Judgment of 23 May 2008 and UN:
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=26780&Cr=icj&Cr1 via:
http://www.un.org/apps/news/subject.asp?SubjectID=8 via:
http://www.un.org/news/ and ASIL ILIB of 3 June 2008 at:
http://www.asil.org/ilib/2008/06/ilib080603.htm via:
http://www.asil.org/ilib/ilibarch.htm and Singapore MFA at:
http://www.mfa.gov.sg/pedraBranca/ via: http://www.mfa.gov.sg [old at:
http://internet-stg1.mfa.gov.sg/internet/press/malaysia.htm ] and Press
Comments at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7416473.stm &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Branca_dispute &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Branca%2C_Singapore and those listed and
linked in the end of article of 24 July 2008 at:
http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Frontpage/2301681/Article/index_html
please see the latest news [via:
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Pedra_Branca &
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=ICJ &
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Malaysia &
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/asiapacific/index.htm &
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/index.htm ]:
Malaysia Keeps Tracing 164-Year-Old Letter of 25 July 2008 at:
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=348420 &
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Thursday/National/2301784/Article/ind
ex_html
Malaysia/Singapore Will Wait for Technical Committee of 24 July 2008
with Map! and also linking in this article's end to all previous comments on
the ICJ Judgment at:
http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Frontpage/2301681/Article/index_html
reprinted without Map at:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest+News/S-E+Asia/STIStory_260859.html
Singapore TS/EEZ Claim Is An Act of Provocation of 24 July 2008 at:
http://malaysianinsider.com/index.php/headlines/42/2076 &
http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Frontpage/2301672/Article/index_html &
http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Frontpage/2301670/Article/index_html &
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Thursday/Columns/2300890/Article/inde
x_html and 1,000 Fishermen Will Loose Their Livelihood of 24 July 2008 at:
http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/National/2301786/Article/index_html
Singapore Claim to TS/EEZ Unlawful under UNCLOS 121(3) of 23 July
2008 at: http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=348052 &
http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/bnm/20080723/tts-batu-puteh-reaction-4-last-k
uala-lum-993ba14.html &
http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/bnm/20080723/tts-batu-puteh-reaction-3-kuala-
lumpur-993ba14.html &
http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/bnm/20080722/tts-s-pore-batu-puteh-2-last-sin
gapore-993ba14.html and Malaysia Furious at Singapore's TS/EEZ Unilateral
Claim of 22/23 July 2008 at:
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Frontpage/2300818/Article/i
ndex_html &
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest+News/S-E+Asia/STIStory_260511.html &
http://politickler.com/posts/pedras-getting-bigger/ &
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=348007
Malaysia Does Not Give In to Singapore of 15 July 2008 at:
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=346056 &
http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/bnm/20080714/tts-parliament-singapore-3-kuala
-lumpur-993ba14.html
There are the best leading international Counsel involved on Malaysia and
Singapore sides, so they will certainly find the way to balance between
contradicting, delicate and masterly vague arguments [requiring careful
studying of excellent! Oral Proceedings at:
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3&code=masi&case=130&k=2b ]
on what are the legal criteria for identifying UNCLOS 121(3) Rock? It could
be noted that similar controversies are currently surrounding
Dokdo/Takeshima/Liancourt Rocks [at:
http://www.mofat.go.kr/english/main/index.jsp?lang=eng# &
http://www.mofa.go.jp/index.html & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokdo &
http://www.america.gov/world/easia.html ], where South Korea [at:
http://www.un.org/sg/ ] decided to enhance habitability (restricted now to 2
civilians and 50 policemen) by setting up a maritime science research
center, digging wells to self-produce potable water, giving wider access to
the public, developing tourism (through building a marine hotel and other
means), holding military exercises near to the disputed islets and applying
for their UNESCO World Heritage Site status [at:
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=27307&Cr=unesco&Cr1 &
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list ].
See via: http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Dokdo &
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=Takeshima : Condoleezza's Trip
to Middle East, Asia & Pacific on 20-28 July 2008 at:
http://www.state.gov/secretary/trvl/2008/107159.htm [via:
http://www.state.gov/ ] and South Korea Cautious of 22 July 2008 at:
http://www.asianewsnet.net/news.php?id=384&sec=1 and Japan Calls for Calm of
22 July 2008 at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080722/wl_nm/japan_korea_islands_dc_1 and
Koreans Outraged by Japan's Claim of 21 July at:
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=45e052606a
c8e7b512451d8eedd6fed2&from=rss
Vladivostock News about Dokdo/Takeshima of 24 July 2008 at:
http://vlad.tribnet.com/issue622/Special_reports/Our_land_needs_to_be_assert
ed [Russia v. Japan Kurils, including UNCLOS 121(3) Rocks at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands ]
South Korea Presses Claims of 20/21 July 2008 at:
http://www.asianewsnet.net/news.php?id=363&sec=1 &
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/07/20/South_Korea_presses_claims_to_Dokdo_i
slets/UPI-28001216595624/ and South Korea Accuses Japan of 20 July 2008 at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080720/wl_asia_afp/skoreajapandiplomacydispute
_080720061324 and Seoul Rejects Tokyo's Proposal for Talks of 18 July at:
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/international/2008/07/794310/ and Islands Row
Deflates Condom Sales Drive in South Korea of 17/18 July 2008 at:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=125644 &
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7511065.stm &
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080717/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_korea_japan_condoms_1
South Korea Steps Up Pressure of 16 July 2008 at:
http://www.asianewsnet.net/news.php?id=290&sec=1 &
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=346531 &
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2008/07/20087183593714312.htm
l and Seoul to Ask Russia to Relabel Sea of Japan into East Sea on Maps of
16 July 2008 at:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20080716/114112519.html and South Korea to Recall
Its Ambassador to Japan over Dokdo/Takeshima of 14 July 2008 at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7504933.stm
UNSG Ban Ki-Moon [at: http://www.un.org/sg/] Visits His Birthplace
in South Korea of 5 July 2008 at:
http://www.unmultimedia.org/photo/detail/183/0183344.html &
http://www.unmultimedia.org/photo/detail/183/0183352.html and with South
Korea PM of 5 July 2008 at:
http://www.unmultimedia.org/photo/detail/183/0183363.html and with South
Korea FM of 4 July 2008 at:
http://www.unmultimedia.org/photo/detail/183/0183331.html
A Mobile-Phone Station on Takeshima/Dokdo Rocks of 1 September 2005
at: http://www.cellular-news.com/story/13755.php
Japan-South Korea Rocks with Map of 23 March 2005 at:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/GC23Dh03.html
Most Expensive Cities - Moscow, Tokyo, London, Oslo, Seoul, Tel Aviv,
New York [Paris is not even listed] - of 24 July 2008 at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7522544.stm
My best regards,
Barbara [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
http://www.law.uu.nl/nilos
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-----Original Message-----
From: International boundaries discussion list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of hamzah ishak
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 17:28
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [IBRU] Pedra Branca is a rock and not as Island?
I'm wondering if we can agree that Pedra Branca (Pulau Batu Puteh) are
rocks and not islands. Simply because there is no vegetation at least small
crops on those two features. Can this 'island' sustain human habitation?
Please give comments.
Thank you,
Hamzah
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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From: International boundaries discussion list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Anderson
[[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 14:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [INT-BOUNDARIES] Reef vs Island
Dear Paul Ure and Colleagues,
There is a difference between Rockall and some of the other features
mentioned in that the claim to measure an EEZ from Rockall [at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall ] was abandoned in 1997 upon accession
to the LOS Convention in view of the terms of article 121(3).
I am not at all expert in appraising the two attached oceandots images (for
which many thanks), but it is not easy to see anything standing above water.
Regards,
David Anderson
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-----Original Message-----
From: International boundaries discussion list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Ure
[[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:27
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [INT-BOUNDARIES] Reef vs Island
Dear Colleagues
Further to previous discussion both on and off list on these mid ocean
features, Middleton and Elizabeth reefs [see Victor Prescott, The
Uncertainties of Middleton and Elizabeth
Reefs at:
http://www.dur.ac.uk/resources/ibru/publications/full/bsb6-1_prescott.pdf ]
must surely rank alongside Rockall, the Spratleys, Okinotorishima and others
when studies are conducted on the impact and influence of low lying
elevations in generating full and extended EEZ's.
After viewing each of them at the referenced URL's consider the
question:
'What does make an island?' or more particularily 'What makes these
islands?'
http://www.oceandots.com/pacific/elizmid/elizabeth.htm
http://www.oceandots.com/pacific/elizmid/middleton2.htm
Regards
Paul Ure
Paul Ure [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Prof. Dr. Barbara Kwiatkowska
Professor of International Law of the Sea
Deputy Director NILOS
Faculty of Law - Utrecht University
Achter Sint Pieter 200
3512 HT Utrecht - The Netherlands
Phone: 31 30 253 7037/7038
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