Just to clarify. I am aware of the Romani people and their history but for current purposes, I am specifically interested in information about Travellers in Ireland. Thanks, Lilith> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:34:08 +0100> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Information re: Irish Travellers / psychiatric survivors?> To: [log in to unmask]> > Well of course it should not be forgotten that the Rom culture and history has been academically and> literarily colonised even longer than our autistic culture, from George Borrow onwards. Indeed one> could say that they have been dealt similar cards in the construction of a romantic mysterious> outsider identity when it suits and fodder for extermination when it suits too.> > Indeed there is no compensation for the holocaust survivors amongst the Rom, but neither is there> any for the Irish and Scottish diaspora either. History repeats over and over again, the process> continues.... We do not know why the Rom left India, indeed if that was even where started from but> we certainly know how todays wars make similar refugees and mass migrations.> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > > [log in to unmask]> > Sent: 20 July 2008 20:15> > To: [log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Information re: Irish Travellers / psychiatric survivors?> > > > Travellers or the Roma?> > > > The Roma are descended from Indian families that were > > considered the lowest cast known as the 'untouchibles' who > > were mistakenly thought to > > have come from Egypt by westerners hence the name 'gypsies'. . > > > > Travellers ON THE OTHER HAND were forced into their nomadic > > way when the English landed gentry stole their land in both > > Ireland and Scotland during the great land clearances in the > > 17th and 18th centuries when the English valued sheep more > > than people. > > > > Both groups were forced to live their nomadic lifestyle due > > to circumstances beyond their own control. Both of these > > groups are very poor. The Roma suffered the holocaust equal > > to Jewish people although to date NO compensation for the > > holocaust has ever been paid to surviving members of the Roma. > > > > I hope this helps> > > > Keith> > > > ________________End of message________________> > This Disability-Research Discussion list is managed by the Centre for Disability Studies at the University of Leeds (www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies).> Enquiries about list administration should be sent to [log in to unmask]> > Archives and tools are located at:> www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html> You can VIEW, POST, JOIN and LEAVE the list by logging in to this web page.
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