Oops wrongo sendo
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From: Patrick McManus [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 16 June 2008 15:50
To: 'GILES GOODLAND'
Subject: RE: Wallace Stevens question
Enjoyed' the manner of addressing clouds' but whole discussion over the head
of the silver surfer I go by sound (in a manner of speaking!)
"folksonomies," is also a new word for me!!!!
Cheers P the ignoranter
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From: British & Irish poets [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of GILES GOODLAND
Sent: 16 June 2008 15:25
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Wallace Stevens question
I think that 'be' used as a noun would sound strange; but strangeness was
the effect Stevens wanted; it is probably impossible to determine the part
of speech Stevens intended (if he intended one).
I prefer the reading
Let 'be' be the finale of seem
rather than
Let (to) be be the finale of seem
if it acts grammatically as a noun then perhaps it is one? In the poem
anyway.
Giles
Jim Andrews <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
is that the actual structure? i wouldn't think it is irrelevant, then.
he wrote another fun one mentioning grammarians, by the way, in "the manner
of addressing clouds": <http://poetry.poetryx.com/poems/5313/>
http://poetry.poetryx.com/poems/5313/
here is my tip of the hat to stevens: <http://vispo.com/vismu/stevens.htm>
http://vispo.com/vismu/stevens.htm . you need the free shockwave plugin for
this one, which you can install from
<http://vispo.com/misc/downloadShockwave.htm>
http://vispo.com/misc/downloadShockwave.htm if you don't have it, and audio.
ja
-----Original Message-----
From: British & Irish poets [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: June 16, 2008 6:18 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Wallace Stevens question
Isn't the first 'be' a cited infinitive verb with the 'to' left off and
isn't it as citation that it acts grammatically as a noun (phrase)?
And is this supplementary pedantic enquiry beside the initial point?
John
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From: British & Irish poets [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Jim Andrews
Sent: 16 June 2008 08:24
To: John Hall
Subject: Re: Wallace Stevens question
let be be finale of seem
the only emperor is the emperor of ice cream.
ja
http://vispo.com <http://vispo.com/>
-----Original Message-----
From: British & Irish poets [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of GILES GOODLAND
Sent: June 16, 2008 12:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Wallace Stevens question
Can anyone think of a line where Stevens uses 'be' as a noun?
I was sure he did it somewhere in some line like
'the intricacies of is' (or the something of is: complexities?
imbrications?) but having searched his poetry on Literature Online I can't
find it anywhere. Am I thinking of Stevens? Does anyone know what line I'm
referring to?
Thanks
Giles
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