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Re: Citations and the ISI Indices

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Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>

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Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:34:03 +0200

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Dear Oguzhan,

Now I understand. This is not the EU standard the 
way your school interprets "dissemination." This 
seems to me too narrow.

David Durling noted, "there are many means of 
disseminating research, ranging across book 
chapters, single authored books, curated 
exhibitions, juried shows, performances, web 
sites, interactive installations, CDs, DVDs, 
television etc. All of these are legitimate means 
of dissemination." There are also conferences and 
journals. The crucial issue is dissemination with 
the quality assurance that peer review provides. 
David notes, we should "not confuse the media 
with the peer review process."

Publication is one reasonable standard, but 
requiring publication only in an ISI index 
journal sets a standard far beyond reasonable 
expectation. A specialist in bibliometrics once 
told me that 25% of all people who complete a PhD 
never publish anything after their thesis, while 
another 50% publish only one article in a full 
academic career. All remaining journal articles 
are published by the remaining group. The 
proportions may have changed slightly, but this 
means that many respectable academics have never 
published an ISI article.

As far as other universities go, I know many 
highly respected universities that encourage 
publishing by PhD students without insisting on 
publication in an ISI index journal as a 
requirement. I don't think that this indicates 
high quality -- I think it indicates too much 
pressure, the kind of pressure that cripples 
people at the beginning of a research career.

While the design journals in the ISI indices are 
leading journals, many excellent journals are not 
included.

There is one likely reason that no one answered 
your question -- "Which European schools require 
the same rules?" I know of no European school 
that requires this. They may exist, but I don't 
know them. For the record, I'd be curious to know 
which universities anywhere demand this.

Your second note both provided a bit of relief 
and a paradox. It's good that these articles can 
be co-authored with supervisors. In that sense, 
this makes the requirement less demanding. On the 
other hand, we all know that we must complete our 
students as a consequence of the payment on 
completion funding that is an increasingly common 
feature of government funding schemes. If we 
impose rules like this on the students while 
allowing the articles to be co-authored, then the 
need to ensure Ph.D. completions means that 
supervisors often grant co-author status to 
students to get them through. An inappropriate 
rule simply adds this task to the supervisor's 
job.

If a student genuinely co-authors, that's fine. 
What puzzles me is this: Why should a co-authored 
article in an ISI journal be more valid as proof 
of the ability to publish than a single authored 
piece in an excellent journal outside the ISI. A 
sole-author article in a solid journal where the 
student does _all_ the work is surely worth more 
than a co-authored article where the professor 
does most of the work.

Without saying any one journal is greater or 
lesser, I'd simply have to argue that a sole 
authored article in journals such as the 
Information Design Journal (Benjamins); CoDesign 
(Taylor and Francis); Artifact (Taylor and 
Francis); or the International Journal of Design 
(Chinese Institute of Design) are worth as much 
as co-author status in an ISI journal.

As it is, I think both our positions are 
reasonably clear. Even so, I would like to know 
which schools use this rule. That's not 
advertising. It is useful information.

I'd also like to know what others on the list 
think about this kind of rule. We have several 
journal editors on this list. I am one, and I've 
said my piece on this.

How about some of you others? Nearly all the 
journal editors here are also professors and 
doctoral supervisors. How do you see this from 
the perspective of your role as an educator? How 
do you see this in your role as an editor?

Yours,

Ken

--

Oguzhan Ozcan wrote:

[1]

>Dear  Ken
>
>I think I am struggling to explain the problem !
>
>EU describes outlines not criteria of course. We 
>comment this outline in our condition and we 
>describe the criteria according to the outline. 
>Therefore Bologna Process says -dissemination-. 
>We comment this as -publication-. For 
>Publication, some schools like me looks quality.
>
>So Turkish Authority follows this statement and 
>recommends All  Schools to ask the candidate to 
>provide a publication to complete PhD degree. As 
>a quality level, Only My Program in Yildiz 
> Technical University and Bilkent University in 
>Ankara, requires min. 1 article published in 
>Citation Journal to complete PhD in Design. A 
> number of High  Quality  PhD in Design programs 
>at USA University also requires this criteria. 
>(I do not advertise them again here)
>
>My earliest question was Which European Schools require the same rules?
>
>Nobody answered it in a year time. Therefore  I 
>asked everybody  how to improve PhD publication 
>in ISI Indices Level. Creating  networks for 
>establishing citation indexed journals 
>and accreditations etc.
>
>Again nobody answered this requirement or  write 
> something else or  I can not explain the 
>problem well in lack of English. I am getting 
>hopeless in EU level anyway !
>
>Otherwise, I did not mean this tricky calculation you mentioned.
>
>With my  best
>
>Oguzhan.
>

[2]

>Dear  Ken
>
>All  you mention here is about Academic 
>Staff Evaluation Processes which also use here 
>in Turkey. Indexed article is  not enough  for 
>that as all we know.
>
>I am talking here about PhD degree only.
>
>I checked again. Almost all leading 
>design research journals are in ISI index. 
> Meanwhile, In all leading programs, PhD 
> Students normally writes ISI indexed article 
>together with his/her professor. Considering 
> PhD duration ( 5-8 years), A professor can 
>supervised  at least 1. This is not issužes. The 
>problem is there are no enough design research 
>journals in ISI. That is what I mean
>
>Best
>
>Oguzhan


-- 

Ken Friedman
Professor
Institute for Communication, Culture, and Language
Norwegian School of Management
Oslo

Center for Design Research
Denmark's Design School
Copenhagen

+47 46.41.06.76    Tlf NSM
+47 33.40.10.95    Tlf Privat

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