Hal, I didn't realise il Duce's second name was Pablo. Was that why he
used to say:
"Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho
ajeno es la paz"
On 29/03/2008, Halvard Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hey, Mussolini couldn't have been all bad: he was, after all,
> named after Juárez.
>
> Hal
>
> "How strange we are, to call what happens
> anything at all."
> --Robert Kelly
>
>
> Halvard Johnson
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>
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:18 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> > I've just been re-reading The Pisan Cantos prior to writing this,
> > Doug, and,
> > as ever before over the last 35 years (when I bought it, price 80p),
> > my
> > impression is of a farrago of the brilliant, the wilful, the
> > rambling, the
> > majestic, the incomprehensible and the downright objectionable. It
> > is a poem
> > of a gifted callow passionate selfless egotist. A profound crank.
> > Pound's poetic project too, from A Draft of XXX Cantos onwards, is
> > increasingly inseparable from his brand of Fascism, a belief system
> > which he
> > never recanted, (I know he did make some remarks in the 1960's
> > regretting
> > his antisemitism but his support for the 'twice-crucified' i.e.
> > Mussolini
> > never wavered). Prosaic 'fact' in such a belief system is always
> > going to be
> > subject to the writer's delusions and prejudices.
> > One can go back to the Pound of his London days: in 'Mauberley' the
> > section
> > about 'Brennbaum' (The Impeccable) is about Max Beerbohm. The piece
> > is, none
> > too furtively, antisemitic. There is more than the one obvious
> > problem about
> > this:
> >
> > Beerbohm wasn't Jewish.
> >
> > (Beerbohm was of Lithuanian ancestry so some gossip in the London
> > literary
> > world implied he was Jewish, as his antecedents were Eastern
> > European)
> >
> > Pound couldn't get his facts right much of the time so it does call
> > into
> > question his imputed ability to incorporate prosaic information into
> > the
> > techniques of poetry.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28/03/2008, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Depends, but her point was that he got that material, & the concept
> >> that such material belonged there, back into poetry; many since have
> >> found ways to, indeed, make it work there (as did he, at his
> >> best)....
> >>
> >> Doug
> >>
> >> On 27-Mar-08, at 10:02 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't feel, pace Perloff, that Pound's imagistic and rhythmic
> >>> techniques
> >>> succeeded in digesting the gobbets and wedges of prose content in
> >>> The
> >>> Cantos.
> >>
> >>
> >> Douglas Barbour
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> >>
> >> Latest books:
> >> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> >> Wednesdays'
> >>
> >> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html
> >>
> >> to rid me of
> >> the ugh in
> >> thought
> >> i spell anew
> >> weave the world
> >> out of the or
> >> binary
> >>
> >> bpNichol
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Bircumshaw
> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>
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David Bircumshaw
Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
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