medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
>> The Perche (Le Perche) is, of course, a region (not a city), west of
Chartres.
> Of course. I had considered using the definite article (both here and in my
earlier mention of St. Avitus of Perche) against the possibility that some
might not recognize this as a region not a town. But Perche without the
article is so familiar in English (at least to medievalists -- one thinks,
e.g., of the Stephen of Perche who was ousted from Palermo during the regency
of Margaret of Navarre or of the brothers Geoffrey of Perche and Stephen of
Perche who participated in the Fourth Crusade) that it seemed unwise to depart
from that usage.
just because a mis-usage is common and "familiar" don't make it Right.
depends upon what you're talking about.
the "county of Perche" or the "region of the Perche"
all those guys you mention would have been "du Perche" (rather than "de
Perche") in the French literature, i'm sure, even though they may not have
been from the comital family.
the awkawardness of rendering "du Perche" in English in some circumstances is
understandable.
however, since you were speaking of the region --rather than the county
>L.'s cult spread fairly widely in France but is centered on Chartres and
Perche
and grouped it with a city, i thought i'd call you on it, even though i knew
you knew that it was a region, not a city, just to be a Pedantic Fussbudget.
c
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