david,
i would not say and never said that "all non-fiction is fiction." indeed,
this would not say much -- but this is your exception.
i tried to answer your question: if (as i said) THE WORLD WE KNOW IS
FICTION, what is non-fiction? and in my answer i granted you to make the
distinction between non-fiction and fiction as you wish, but this does not
give you access to anything outside your own nervous system within which you
construct the world you know. epistemologically, the world you know does
not represent the world to which you have no direct access. if non-fiction
means describing the world as is -- unframed by the language used to
describe it and without acknowledging its conceptualization by your nervous
system, then i call this claim illusionary, indeed.
klaus
pleas don't gloss over the fine points i made
k
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Subject: Re: Is all writing fiction?
On 23/01/2008, at 3:42 PM, Klaus Krippendorff wrote:
> are you buying into russell's theory of logical types, david?
Not at all, just trying to make sense of what you are saying, but without
much success.
If, as you say, all non-fiction is fiction, then I don't think you have said
anything useful.
I have a fairly good idea in ordinary usage of when to describe something as
fiction and something else as non-fiction. When I go to my local library or
book shop and see signs that point me to fiction and non-fiction, I know
which section to go to for books on gardening and where I will find books by
Agatha Christie. It is of no value to me to be told in that context that all
non-fiction is fiction. If I follow your advice I will look in the wrong
place for gardening books.
If the fiction/non-fiction distinction works usefully why would I abandon
it? I can accept that gardening books are 'socially constructed', and that
there are some works that sit uneasily at the boundary of fiction and
non-fiction, like Moby Dick, but I still find the distinction useful.
When you say: THE WORLD WE KNOW IS FICTION, I don't know what you are saying
that would fit into any of the normal contexts in which I would use the
terms fiction and non-fiction.
David
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