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You're right, George:
Acts 19:
11 (Vulgate) virtutesque non quaslibet Deus faciebat per manus
Pauli / (Douay/Rheims/Challoner) And God wrought by the hand of Paul
more than common miracles.
12 ita ut etiam super languidos deferrentur a corpore eius sudaria
vel semicintia et recedebant ab eis languores et spiritus nequam
egrediebantur / So that even there were brought from his body to the
sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them,
and the wicked spirits went out of them.
Alter Geo.
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On 25 Jan 2008, at 17:28, George R. Hoelzeman wrote:
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> I seem to recall a passage in the Acts of the Apostles that makes
> reference to people carrying off hankerchiefs which had been
> touched to or blessed by
> Paul which were used to heal infirmities.
>
> Sadly, I don't recall the exact passage at the moment. Somewhere
> in chapter 19 I want to say, but could be wrong.
>
> George
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:57:47 -0000, Madeleine Gray wrote:
>
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>> I do remember seeing in a relic collection in Venice (very vague
>> memory,
>> it was a long time ago) bloodstained napkins said to be relics of a
>> number of stigmatics. I think, though, that they were all post-
>> medieval
>> (mainly C18-C19, I think) - but these must surely have been collected
>> and distributed during their lifetimes?
>
>> And OK, not bodily relics, but there must be lots of examples of
>> collection and distribution of contact relics.
>
>> Maddy
>
>> Dr Madeleine Gray, in the foothills of God's golden county of Gwent
>
>> Senior Lecturer in History
>
>> School of Education/Ysgol Addysg
>
>> University of Wales, Newport/Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd
>
>> Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion, PO /Blwch Post 179
>
>> Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3YG, Wales/Cymru
>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675
>
>
>> 'I ask you for help. And all you give me is ...papers!'
>> (Magda in Gian Carlo Menotti's The Consul)
>
>>
>
>> History at University of Wales, Newport: http://
>> timezone.newport.ac.uk
>> Gwent County History Association website:
>> http://gwent-county-history-association.newport.ac.uk
>> Cistercian Way: http://cistercian-way.newport.ac.uk
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>
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>> culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> Marjorie
>> Greene
>> Sent: 25 January 2008 05:27
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 25. January/relics
>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>> "But are there documented instances of the proleptic
>> distribution of relics?"
>
>> Depends on what you mean by "documented," "distribution" and
>> "relics."
>> My husband visited Padre Pio's village in the 1960s and people (not
>> Church-affiliated as far as he knew) were selling (10K lira) napkins
>> with Padre Pio's (alleged) blood on them.
>> Take this non-medieval and anecdotal tale for what it's worth. For
>> some,
>> analogies between today's behavior and that of the MA are spurious.
>> Does anyone know if there are relics of the blood of Saint Francis
>> collected in his lifetime?
>> MG
>
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