medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Off in one direction: About 50 years ago there was a fine novel, /Mary/,
by Sholem Asch, which took the radical approach of showing the "holy
family" as a Jewish family. In it, the Romans are having one of their
inclusive crucifixions & Joseph is ordered to produce cross pieces.
Asch portrays the adolescent Jesus planing & smoothing out the wood
where a man's shoulders would press.
DW
George R. Hoelzeman wrote:
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> Whoa, Whoa Whoa Whoa!!!!
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> Tell me more about this? This is potentially extremely interesting.
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> Being descended from a long line of German woodworkers (and still such today) I know that during the Middle Ages there were a large number of terms
> used to differentiate between the various wood related crafts, but this is the first I've heard of Joseph potentially being a cabinetmaker v. carpenter in the
> broad sense of the term. This is very interesting!
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> So. . . . what would a 1st C. Jewish cabinetmaker have built? chests? wooden plates? From what I recollect (and the 1st C. is a bit before my area) the
> stone/stucco homes of the ancient middle east seldom, if ever, had shelving/cabinetry in the modern sense of the term. I seem to recall that the clothes
> cabinet did not come into existence until the Quatrocento, previous storage being primarily the "cassa" or "cassone" - a type of chest.
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> George (thinking Joseph may be more connected to his profession than previously thought)
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> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:45:00 -0500, Frank Morgret wrote:
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>> Bonjour, eh?
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>> Katherine wrote:
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>>> . . . Joseph was a carpenter and carpenters (among
>>> others) build houses.
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>> You and a kazillion other folks are under the impression Joseph
>> was a carpenter. He probably wasn't, at least in the sense of one
>> who makes houses.
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>> The Greek, Mt. 13:15, Mark 6:3, says he was a 'tektðn', which
>> is probably more correctly translated "cabinetmaker". As various
>> Latin translations of the NT appeared, 'fabri' became the preferred
>> translation, and a fabri was often a carpenter or a stone mason
>> who built houses. Thus in numerous English translations he
>> became a 'carpenter'.
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>> So to close our discussion, I hope, they have been burying the
>> wrong guy.
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>> Kindest regards to all!
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>> Frank
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