medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
You are thinking of James IV, who was killed at Flodden Field in 1513.
Tom Izbicki
Ms B M Cook wrote:
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> One more contribution from a slightly different perspective.
>
> IIRC one of the Stewart kings of Scotland (James V ??) wore a heavy
> iron belt under his ordinary clothes for all his adult life because he
> felt guilt for the death of his father. It has never been fully
> established just HOW guilty he was. The son - as a teenaged youth -
> led a revolt against papa and defeated him in battle. While the
> fleeing king was lying sick and exhausted in a peasant hut he wanted a
> priest. An appropriate seeming person came - and fatally stabbed the
> sick king. The identity of the assassin has never been discovered. Nor
> his exact allegiance. He might have been working off a private grudge;
> he might have been someone who wanted to curry favour with the
> successful prince or he just MIGHT have been someone acting on the
> prince's orders. The younger James never clarified the situation but
> wore the penitential iron belt. He might have been showing remorse for
> his act of rebellion or it might have been patricide.
>
> Interesting because he is a layman and not a Religiou even if he is a
> king.
>
> BMC
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Corbari" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [M-R] ferrea zona
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>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture
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>> I would like to thank all who have replied to my query.
>> You more than answered my original questions. Your answers and
>> comments
>> will lead to consider the biblical, monastic, and liturgical
>> connotations
>> of Villana's use of the iron chain.
>>
>> Indeed, the zona ferrea is written in her vita along other
>> ascetic/penitential practices such as hairshirt and fasting vigils.
>> Some
>> of you may be interested in the full description, as it suggests she
>> never
>> took it off again.
>>
>> "Ferrea pridem zona ad mammillas super nuda se precinxit, que tanta
>> illius corpuscolo tenacitate inhesit ut emortuo tandem vix sine carnibus
>> posset
>> avelli."
>>
>> thank you again
>>
>> eliana corbari
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, October 31, 2007 6:11 pm, Christopher Crockett wrote:
>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>>> From: George FERZOCO <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>> According to Du Cange:
>>>
>>>> 1. ZONA, seu Cingulum. Vestis Sacerdotalis.
>>>> Alcuinus lib. de Offic. divin.
>>>> : Sequitur Zona, quae cingulum dicitur,
>>>> qua restringitur poderis, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> just curious George: where did you find a digitized, OCRed(?) DuCange?
>>>
>>> c
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