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Dear Maddy,
Not so fast! I was looking at typical Italian instances, where L. lacks a crozier. But he's often figured elsewhere as an abbot, in monastic garb and wearing a crozier. Examples follow.
The article on L. ("Leonardo di Nobiliacum") in the _ Bibliotheca Sanctorum_, VII, 1198-208, has at col. 1203 a good view of a fourteenth-century statue, in the cathedral of Würzburg, of L. holding a chain in his right hand and a crozier in his left.
Two views of this type here, the top one a late fifteenth-century example from Stuttgart:
http://tinyurl.com/29zr5s
Larger view of bottom one (in the Theobaldskapelle of the Leonhardskirche in Basel):
http://www.leonhardskirche.ch/bildleonhard.html
Others:
On the Leonhardikirche in Bad Sankt Leonhard im Lavanttal (Land Kärnten) in Austria:
http://tinyurl.com/23swl3
In the Augustiner-Museum at Rattenberg (Land Tirol) in Austria:
http://www.augustinermuseum.at/sammlung_leonhard.htm
And here he is as a mitred abbot (C13), in the Pfarrkirche hl. Michael at St Michael im Lungau (Land Salzburg) in Austria:
http://www.burgenseite.com/faschen/st_michael_faces_6.jpg
Best again,
John Dillon
On: Monday, November 12, 2007, at 8:53 am, Maddy Gray wrote:
> Many thanks, John - that's great. The crucial thing I think is the
> absence of a crozier (or of course a mitre) - which makes me incline
> towards the idea that the Gresford figure is not Leonard but Ninian.
>
> Maddy
>
> Dr Madeleine Gray, in the foothills of God's golden county of Gwent
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> Senior Lecturer in History
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> 'I ask you for help. And all you give me is ...papers!'
> (Magda in Gian Carlo Menotti's The Consul)
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> History at University of Wales, Newport: http://timezone.newport.ac.uk
> Gwent County History Association website:
> http://gwent-county-history-association.newport.ac.uk
> Cistercian Way: http://cistercian-way.newport.ac.uk
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> -----Original Message-----
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> culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John
> Dillon
> Sent: 12 November 2007 14:42
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> Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 6. November - St Leonard of Noblac
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> culture
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> Dear Maddy,
>
> Although that sculpture above the main portal (one of a flanking pair)
> at San Leonardo di Lama Volara (San Leonardo di Siponto) is almost
> certainly a representation of St. Leonard, there's no documentation to
> prove that. Though the author of the site you looked at cautiously
> avoids identifying this sculpture flat-out as Leonard, using instead a
> conditional form ("Si tratterebbe"), I think it's pretty clearly L.
> Note the similar iconography in his mosaic representation (later
> twelfth- or early thirteenth-century) in the Cappella Palatina at
> Palermo:
> http://tinyurl.com/2xc8x3
>
> Here's another example of the same iconography (said to be of 1485; in
> private hands):
> http://tinyurl.com/382bzf
>
> Best,
> John Dillon
>
> On Monday, November 12, 2007, at 7:55 am, Madeleine Gray wrote:
>
> > John, I've looked at the detailed depiction of the saint at
> > http://www.garganonline.net/S.Leo2.html - do you know of any others?
>
> > Or does anyone else have a good image showing how the saint was
> > depicted in the late medieval period? I'm looking at the iconography
>
> > of the font at Gresford which has a figure with manacles and
> fetters.
> > This is traditionally identified as Leonard, and there is a chapel
> > dedicated to St Leonard nearby. On the other hand, the figure at
> > Gresford has what looks like a crozier and could be mitred (too much
>
> > damage to be really sure) so I'm wondering if it could possibly be
> > Ninian.
> >
> > I'm still trying to track down a reference I was given by a research
>
> > student some time ago about connections between the cult of St Leonard
>
> > and the Templars. Has anyone else come across this?
> >
> > Maddy
> >
> > Dr Madeleine Gray, in the foothills of God's golden county of Gwent
> >
> > Senior Lecturer in History
> >
> > School of Education/Ysgol Addysg
> >
> > University of Wales, Newport/Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd
> >
> > Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion, PO /Blwch Post 179
> >
> > Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3YG, Wales/Cymru
> >
> > Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675
> >
> >
> > 'I ask you for help. And all you give me is ...papers!'
> > (Magda in Gian Carlo Menotti's The Consul)
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