medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
> On Monday, October 29, 2007, at 7:40 am, christopher crockett wrote:
>> Revisio Questio:
>> is there any instance of a council (significant or otherwise) being
hosted at a monastery in the West, during the High Middle Ages?
>> i just can't think of one which fits my moved goal posts.
> Is that because your goal posts don't encompass -- metaphorically, of course
-- monastic cathedrals?
yes.
or no.
they don't.
they're my goal posts and i can move them around as i please.
>Monreale had metropolitan jurisdiction over Catania and Syracuse from 1182
onward and presumably hosted local synods (as it certainly did in the early
modern period).
and i assume that there will be numerous English examples (and examples from
wherever else that curious, mongrel, oxymoronic institution of "monastic
cathedrals" spawned).
butbut, i would venture the suggestion that those councils/synods were held in
those places precisely and soley because the place was a *cathedral* --the
monastic connection being hapenstantialistic and secondary.
encore:
is there any other instance of a council (significant or otherwise) being
hosted at a monastery [qua monastery] in the West, during the High Middle
Ages?
i added "other" because i just realised that the 1130 Etampes council *was*
held in a "monastery," of sorts --the (royal and secular) collegial abbey of
St. Mary of Etampes, the abbot of which sometimes referred to himself in the
charters as "abbas regalium abbatiarum" (the others being St. Spire of
Corbeil, St. Mello of Melun, St.Denis de la Châtre, etc.).
but i mean a *real* monastery.
c
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