medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
> Christopher Crockett wrote:
> > From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >> It is a peculiar (and probably peculiarly French) use of the term
> >> "direct" one suspects that it loses something in the translation, as the
> >> Houses of Valois and Bourbon were also descended "directly" from Hugh
> >> Capet.
> >
> > i'm afraid i don't understand the objection to the "direct" usage to
> > designate the kings who were descended "directly" via the male line.
> >
> > distaff descent is, as it were, "indirect."
> Exactly - and those other (non-"direct") "Houses" are also male line
descents - distaff descent doesn't come into it (Salic Law, and all that...)
yes, i miswrote.
should have said "collateral" descent = "indirect/nondirect/sansdirect"
(whatever the Frog is for the contraire of "direct").
seems to me that that is the distinction which is being made --a "direct" line
of descent via (usually) the eldest sons, vs. the necessity of bringing in a
guy from a collateral tige when the "direct" one runs out of Y-chromosomes.
c
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